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Offline 1K3

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New Russian Wonder Weapon...
« on: November 17, 2004, 05:21:18 PM »
Putin said today that they have a new tactical weapon systems capability that simply "other countries (even the US) do not have".

hmmm :confused:

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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2004, 05:55:56 PM »
Just a new variant of the Topol M. Heavier payload - greater ability to do trajectory maneuvers - but most likely is the implementation of MARV warheads - which unlike MIRV's are able to maneuver in the end-game.

MARV being maneuverable re-entry vehicle.
MIRV being multiple indepentently targetable re-rentry vehicle.

Both superpowers avoided MARV's during the 70s and 80's b/c of seeing it as a new stem of the arms race. Was built specifically to defeat ABM defences which were still woefully ineffective at the time.




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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2004, 06:10:02 PM »
Why does Russia continue to create weapons for large scale use. I thought the  Cold War was over, why dont they improve the secuirity on existing arms ? Or are the Russians having a new cold war aganst terrorists... you touch another school, we nuke your home country...great incentive in that.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2004, 06:11:51 PM »
It's to keep the Chechen Rebels in check.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2004, 06:21:59 PM »
Well, for several reasons. If you don't constantly create new things - you lose the pool of knowlege on how to create those things from those that know hows to and you cannot train another generation on the ways to create those things - this is agnostic of the weapons system in question or any invention for that matter.


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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2004, 06:25:07 PM »
I read in an MSNBC article today that Russians are developing a "heavy nuke missle" as well.  A 4.4 ton ICBM capable of carrying up to 10 warheads a peice.  That's a whole lotta nukes

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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2004, 06:44:21 PM »
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Originally posted by 1K3
Putin said today that they have a new tactical weapon systems capability that simply "other countries (even the US) do not have".

hmmm :confused:


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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2004, 07:11:15 PM »
russia can't pay it's troops,can't buy fuel or parts for it's fighters,can't pay to dispose of it's old missles,can't feed it's people....but russia can develop a new missle system.

time for a new revolution comrade.

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2004, 11:21:44 PM »
They have some other weapons technology that we don't.  The Arena point defense system for tanks, for example, or the Shkval torpedo.  

The latter is more dangerous, but the state of their navy mitigates it somewhat.

Some might argue that the Shkval could be dangerous to its users as well, under the assumption that it was involved in the Kursk accident.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2004, 01:34:58 AM »
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I read in an MSNBC article today that Russians are developing a "heavy nuke missle" as well.  A 4.4 ton ICBM capable of carrying up to 10 warheads a peice.  That's a whole lotta nukes


lol  why the heck don't they drop some cash on some decent locks for the weapons they already have?

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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2004, 01:56:06 AM »
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Why does Russia continue to create weapons for large scale use. I thought the  Cold War was over


Earlier today I was thinking,"Hey, why is NATO still around?"

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2004, 02:00:27 AM »
For that matter why is the UN? Whatever happened to towing their cars and selling'm off for unpaid tickets? I miss the Rudy days...

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2004, 12:48:50 AM »
Pleeeese tell me what is NATO and why really it's stillll a round ?

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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2004, 10:09:28 AM »
According to the word of mouth from a nice Italian lady, this new weapon is just the ultrasonic (2.5 Mach) spontaneous-change-of-manoevre missile capable of carrying 400 kg nuclear war head. It can also be used as the component multiple device on ballistic rockets at the atmospheric stage of their flight effectively penetrating all modern and near future anti-missile defences. Doomsday for the U.S. Navy.

Hey, that's what the lady said.

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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2004, 10:20:33 AM »
I think it has something to do with the methane produced my vodka induced farts.  If they have found a way to capture, store and deliver the vodka farts on a target then you better start praying now.  :D

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