Author Topic: New bombing (Read 1034 times)

Tilt · « **on:** November 18, 2004, 05:20:32 AM »

I find these much easier to use although I struggle to see why just removing the need to set target alt makes such a difference.

The feed back interms of air speed set is very useful ( did we have it before and I didnt notice) as taking multiple calibrations tells me if they "look right" by checking any movement in the speed set during calibration.

If the speed is gently increasing or decreasing I can compensate by releasing bombs a little earlier or later.

It does seem that air speed on approach (ie am I coming in fast or slow) has little to do with accuracy. I find it as easy and as accurate to calibrate at 225 as it is at 185.

The formation B24 with 4 x 2000lbs is a field killer. I am picking off hangers with relevant ease at 6000lbs per salvo. In fact more so than a twin salvo of 3 x 1000lbs.

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2004, 10:10:10 AM »

Because they removed more than just the need to set target alt?

They made triangulating your speed very easy as now you no longer need to hold the crosshair on a particular point.

Raider179 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2004, 10:14:56 AM »

just hold y during calibration. thats all you gotta do. You should be able to pick off hangers with 1000 lber. Just keep your speed steady.i.e. go straight and dont change throttle for a long time.

Tilt · « **Reply #3 on:** November 18, 2004, 10:23:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Because they removed more than just the need to set target alt?

They made triangulating your speed very easy as now you no longer need to hold the crosshair on a particular point.

explains it all thanks...............was still using the JS

bozon · « **Reply #4 on:** November 18, 2004, 12:32:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
Because they removed more than just the need to set target alt?

They made triangulating your speed very easy as now you no longer need to hold the crosshair on a particular point.

So now if you keep steady speed the cross hair gives absolute precision?
are we back to the 1 bomb 1 hit from 20kft days?

Bozon

Karnak · « **Reply #5 on:** November 18, 2004, 01:29:08 PM »

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Originally posted by bozon
So now if you keep steady speed the cross hair gives absolute precision?
are we back to the 1 bomb 1 hit from 20kft days?

Bozon

Not quite as the bombs still drift and a given calibration is only good for that speed and heading +/- 5°.

What changed was that when calibrating you no longer have to click your target's altitude as a calibration is good for any target altitude and you no longer have to manually triangulate your speed.

Basically altitude has been taken out of consideration and triangulating is easier (but not any faster) and everything else remains the same. Bombs still drift. Changing your speed or course will cause you to miss.

Back in the laser sight days the crosshairs always showed exactly where you were going to hit, unless you were in a heavy bank or some such. You could change course and speed at will and never worry about missing and that made multiple passes on a base very easy. Now you still need to make multiple passes you need to get far enough away for your speed to stabilize and recalibrate the bombsight. It takes a lot more time and planning.

Raider179 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 18, 2004, 04:02:19 PM »

Bozon....Yes

Kev367th · « **Reply #7 on:** November 18, 2004, 07:22:16 PM »

Ridiculously easy now.

Flayed1 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 19, 2004, 01:12:56 AM »

I agree with Kev.

Easyscor · « **Reply #9 on:** November 19, 2004, 10:21:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Ridiculously easy now.

Sadly, yes.

Zanth · « **Reply #10 on:** November 19, 2004, 11:19:52 AM »

Seeing more bombers at altitude in a night than I used to see in a week. Also seeing less suicide buffs now that they know they have so much better chance hittting stuff by using boimbsight. If this holds true, it was an overall good trade for the arena.

Darkish · « **Reply #11 on:** November 19, 2004, 11:47:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Zanth
seeing less suicide buffs now that they know they have so much better chance hittting stuff by using boimbsight. If this holds true, it was an overall good trade for the arena.

I just can't help feeling though that the stuffing has been knocked out of what it meant to be a good bomber. Making things easier does not neccessarily equate with better.

Ok, it's better for the MA with less low level buff runs but since when was the MA ever about realisim.

Ok more guys are doing bomber sorties but it really wasn't that hard in the first place, but to be really good took a bit of hand eye co-ordination.

There was a very valid post I read concerning the introduction of formations. They were brought in at the same time as the new/old bombing method. With this new regime should we not go back to solitary bombers?

GreenCloud · « **Reply #12 on:** November 19, 2004, 03:30:43 PM »

yes..way too easy to bomb,,its ashame i think..

im not a genious...most of the time..but i could bomb just fien with the old way..

Hate to see lazer bomn bak

simshell · « **Reply #13 on:** November 19, 2004, 05:13:26 PM »

im enjoying bombers alot of late were it was rare that i ever used them

(S)HTC:aok

LePaul · « **Reply #14 on:** November 19, 2004, 05:35:21 PM »

I like it.

I'm honestly surprised that I am a huge minority that seems to actually climb and bomb from higher altitudes...no not 500ft to 1000ft....I cruise around at 15,000 to 19,000ft and most of the buffs I see are doing the NOE thing.

Conversely, I find very very few fighters bother climbing to intercept me.