Author Topic: Clear and present danger (Read 1011 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #15 on:** November 18, 2004, 02:13:05 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Even. World a safer place, WMDs, terrorism.

If you are going to spout the "UN is meaningless" line, don't fall back onto the broken resolutions and realise the real reason we went into Iraq - described prior to this sentence.
-SW

Not Even.
When did I "spout the UN is meaningless"?
I didnt. Even though it is making itself so more and more each day.

When you issue resolution after resolution and dont back those resolutions. Exept to pass another resolution then you make yourself meaningless

But I dont think its going to come to that.
Iran and Iraq are two different situations

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 18, 2004, 02:15:31 PM »

pongo... are you saying that answering me would kill a cat? or are you saying that you have no answer for me?

lazs

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #17 on:** November 18, 2004, 02:16:02 PM »

Well, believe what you want. Did you even read the thing about UN resolutions? Yeah, strike and a miss. If you don't think the body is relevant - whatever it does isn't relevant either.

Ripsnort has stated that, and now you are stating that.

Iran is doing shady deals behind closed doors just like Iraq was doing, they are more similiar than not.
-SW

Yeager · « **Reply #18 on:** November 18, 2004, 02:23:28 PM »

Correct me if Im wrong, and I frequently am, but isn't the government of Iran an elected government?

I dont really understand the government structure of Iran, is there a religious component?

My point is, I think Iran is a legit soveriegn country where Iraq was ruled by a gangster and his bully sons and sunni relatives.

Pongo · « **Reply #19 on:** November 18, 2004, 02:52:49 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
pongo... are you saying that answering me would kill a cat? or are you saying that you have no answer for me?

lazs

Your question isnt fully formed and deserves no answer. All it does is show you have no response to my post.

lazs2 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 19, 2004, 08:50:17 AM »

Pongo... I would say the same thing to that veteran that I say to every veteran... "thank you for your service" Now.... what would you say to him? Is that "fully formed" enough for you?

lazs

straffo · « **Reply #21 on:** November 19, 2004, 08:55:53 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Correct me if Im wrong, and I frequently am, but isn't the government of Iran an elected government?

I dont really understand the government structure of Iran, is there a religious component?

My point is, I think Iran is a legit soveriegn country where Iraq was ruled by a gangster and his bully sons and sunni relatives.

wiki is your friend : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran

Yeager · « **Reply #22 on:** November 19, 2004, 09:57:15 AM »

Thanks straffo, never heard of wiki but it works.

I dare not say Iran is a strict theocracy and it certainly is not a democracy but it is no dictatorship or ruled by tribal thugs. It is a odd mix of thocratic rule and democratic representation.

It appears my initital understand of Iran having a legitimate government was correct and my understanding that Iraq having had no government but instead had a tribe of gangsters and thugs that ruled with inhuman brutality, is accurate. I think.......

With any luck, any luck at all, Iraq will shortly have a elected governemnt and.......working. At least thats the idea.

Pongo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2004, 10:00:56 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Pongo... I would say the same thing to that veteran that I say to every veteran... "thank you for your service" Now.... what would you say to him? Is that "fully formed" enough for you?

lazs

Thats not what you had to say for Kerry.

Crumpp · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2004, 11:54:28 AM »

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I dare not say Iran is a strict theocracy and it certainly is not a democracy but it is no dictatorship or ruled by tribal thugs. It is a odd mix of thocratic rule and democratic representation.

It is a Theocracy. The priest who are elected from their own ranks run the Guardian Council which "interprets" the constitution for the "elected" government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Guardians

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Leader

These folks determine the Supreme Leader:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Experts

But only on the approval of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Council

Crumpp

Blue2 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 19, 2004, 12:06:57 PM »

If we stopped making enemies of these countries maybe we wouldn't have to worry so about what they did or didn't have!

lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 19, 2004, 01:45:38 PM »

what did I say to kerrie/for kerrie pongo? and why are yu avoiding the question that you brought up in the first place?

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #27 on:** November 19, 2004, 01:46:53 PM »

ok blue... how do you not make enemies of these country's fanatical leaders and cults?

lazs

Blue2 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 19, 2004, 01:55:48 PM »

Stop backing Israel so strongly and apply some balance to the situation. Broker a solution like happened in Northern Ireland.

No Palastinian problem %90 of Arab hatred abated. There will always be some mad bugger about. Concentrate on them.

You guys have your own terrorists too as Mr McVeigh knew.

lazs2 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 19, 2004, 01:58:59 PM »

so if we just wiped out all the jews we would become friends of the murderous bastards? I bet the anti semite euros would pretend to like us a lot more too.

lazs