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Offline Mitsu

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« on: November 18, 2004, 10:24:59 PM »
Is that plane added in new patch?

Four Ho-5 20mm cannons (fuselage*2 wing*2) 150rds each.
More powerful HA-45-21 engine.

Please add it with few perks!

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2004, 10:35:56 PM »
is -1b rarer than our N1K?

btw did it see action like in china, okinawa, ect?

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2004, 11:14:57 PM »
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is -1b rarer than our N1K?

btw did it see action like in china, okinawa, ect?

No, more Ki-84-I-Otsu were built than N1K2-J or three cannon La-7s.  About 500 Ki-84-I-Otsu were built.  406 N1K2-Js were built.  About 300 three cannon La-7s were built.

I'm not sure where it saw service mostly.
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2004, 12:02:07 AM »
Hold the phone here, before we do more Ki84 variants.

We've got the Spit VIII with 1,654 built,
5,663 Spit IX built and 1,084 Spit XVI built, with roughly 80 percent of those being LF variants and we don't have an LF Spit yet.

I raise my 8000 LF Spits and call your 500 Ki's

Enough is enough already :)

Give me a clipped wing LF IX/ XVI or VIII first

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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2004, 12:13:02 AM »
no, we need p-38G or P-40N/M's... and the p-39 and ummm some russian jobbers...
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2004, 12:22:21 AM »
Fools, we must have a Bf109G-14!!!!!

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2004, 01:02:50 AM »
OK I'll take em all,

Clipped Spit LFXVIe
P38G
P39N
P40N
109G-14

Works for me :)

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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2004, 06:14:30 AM »
bah 109g14 sucks

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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2004, 09:38:49 AM »
The G-14 is teh ruxxor...

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2004, 10:17:42 AM »
couldnt agree more guppy,
more spits,
clipped wing would make my day!

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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2004, 10:35:09 AM »
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No, more Ki-84-I-Otsu were built than N1K2-J or three cannon La-7s.  About 500 Ki-84-I-Otsu were built.  406 N1K2-Js were built.  About 300 three cannon La-7s were built.

I'm not sure where it saw service mostly.



We need to be careful when quoting "built" as opposed to saw service...........

About 300 La7 (3 x B20) saw service prior May 45...........

I dont know how many saw further service in August in Manchuria but certainly by that time there were many more "built" than 300   I'll check.


edit to check

Total La7 to

May 45....

Built  3977  In(thru) service VVS 2957 Navy 198

3 x B20 version

May 45

Built 368  In(thru) service VVS 300- (figure not exact)

Total La7 to end of 45 (end of production)

Built 6158,

Gorki (21)  4,610

Moscow (381) 1,298 (Moscow built the 3 x b20 version from late January onwards but not all of these 1298 la7's will have been 3 cannon)

Ulan Ude (99) 250 ( I have one report that some 3 cannon versions were built here but 250 is such a small total batch number the facility never really got going{Gorki and Moscow produced in batches of 100 at atime})
« Last Edit: November 20, 2004, 04:51:37 AM by Tilt »
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2004, 10:54:07 AM »
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We need to be careful when quoting "built" as opposed to saw service...........

About 300 La7 (3 x B20) saw service prior May 45...........

I dont know how many saw further service in August in Manchuria but certainly by that time there were many more "built" than 300   I'll check.

Ah.  I did not know that.  Thanks for the correction.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2004, 10:55:30 AM »
Guppy you seemed to have forgotten the Seafire L III.   There were 3 times as many  L III's produced than the IIc we have now.;)

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2004, 11:40:37 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2004, 02:25:26 PM »
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Hold the phone here, before we do more Ki84 variants.

We've got the Spit VIII with 1,654 built,
5,663 Spit IX built and 1,084 Spit XVI built, with roughly 80 percent of those being LF variants and we don't have an LF Spit yet.

I raise my 8000 LF Spits and call your 500 Ki's

Enough is enough already :)

Give me a clipped wing LF IX/ XVI or VIII first

Dan/Slack


Here's my thoughts:

American airpower is represented a total of 22 aircraft.

Germany is represented by 17 total aircraft.

We have 5 varients of Spitfires. Plus the Brit plane set includes the Typhoon, Tempest, 3 Hurricanes, Mosquito, Boston and the Lancaster, which adds up to 13 total aircraft.

Japanese aircraft are represented by two Zeros, the D3A, the B5N and the N1K2-J (all IJN aircraft). The JAAF is represented by the Ki-61, Ki-67 and Ki-84a-I. This comes to 8 total aircraft.

Soviet aircraft consists of Two yaks, two Lavochkins and the IL-2, for a total of 5 aircraft.

Italy is represented by the C.202 and C.205. That's just 2 aircraft.

We do not have any French aircraft. No Dutch aircraft. No Romanian aircraft, and so on.

What we really need is another late-war Japanese single engine carrier bomber. Perhaps a version of the G4M medium bomber. This set could also use the J2M3 Raiden and since a second Ki-84 varient is easier to do, add that as well. This will provide a balanced Japanese plane set.

Soviet aircraft could use the Pe-2, Yak-3, I-16 and the Yak-9D.

Any Italian bomber would be welcome, and theres always the Re-2000 or Re-2002 or Re 2005 as well as the various Fiat fighters.

Any aircraft representing countries like France and Holland would be welcomed.

Once we have balanced the plane set better, then introducing other Spitfire marks would be appropriate. Likewise, another P-38 model and the P-39 could be added. Planes like the P-39 and P-63 could appear in Soviet colors, adding to that set.

There is certainly a gap in German bombers. Maybe the He 111 or Do 217 would be considered.

Sure, there were many different versions of the Spitfire and Mosquito, but these only build on sizable plane sets. Let's get things balanced and then move on to more versions of existing aircraft.

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