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Offline Kurfürst

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« Reply #645 on: April 27, 2005, 06:15:39 AM »
CAG? I`ve been thinking about this, but there are some details, ie. the radiators are open assymetric on the 109 in the early vid, the and it appears a 109G. One snapview on the cowling shows like a Merlin 109... also the smoke is like what`s used on airshows. I mean, if it`s really CAD, why not correct types, and why are so small details present?

OTOH, I could not make out the ailerons moving...
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« Reply #646 on: April 27, 2005, 06:18:30 AM »
Computer aided Graphics.

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« Reply #647 on: April 27, 2005, 06:46:22 AM »
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Computer aided Graphics.

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Like; you mean, it's fake?!?:o
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« Reply #648 on: April 27, 2005, 10:00:39 AM »
The Graph is not from Excel, it is a MS paint job, and the data is completely on spot. Nothing funny at all.
The 109 is from the IZZY graph, the Spits are all from the Spitfire site.
Uncomfortable for some one-oh-niners to look at the Mk VIII which has some 160 gallons in the tanks....
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #649 on: April 27, 2005, 10:59:13 AM »
That would be CGI - Computer Generated Imagery. Not CAD - Computer Aided Design. Big difference. (There is no such thing as CAG ... well, except in the navy ;))
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« Reply #650 on: April 27, 2005, 01:01:38 PM »
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I only recall one time, about four years ago, that I actually did that.

I have not called you any name, other than Barbi, in this thread.


I don't call people "Nazis".


I don't think you are a Nazi, Barbi.  I think you are a misguided idealist like our American Confederate nuts who are convinced of the rightousness of their heroes.  You like to put your guys on a pedastal and wax long about how great they were, and part of that for you seems to be denegrating the other side in its entirety.  You want your noble heroes to have gone down fighting exceptionally well against the pedastrian masses in their cheam crappy equipment.


That is where we differ.

I think The Spitfire was a great and classic warplane.  You think it was utter crap.

I think the Bf109 was a great and classic warplane.  You think it was a divinely inspired engineering miracle.

And it goes that way across the whole spectrum of Allied and German equipment.


American Confederate nuts

Whoa buddy, chill on the stars and bars man.:D
(I happen to be from Dixie):cool:
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« Reply #651 on: April 27, 2005, 04:26:02 PM »
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American Confederate nuts

Whoa buddy, chill on the stars and bars man.:D
(I happen to be from Dixie):cool:


Stars and Stripes Forever!

:p


(Obviously a Yankee here)
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« Reply #652 on: April 27, 2005, 05:03:21 PM »
O, I wish I was in the land of cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.

In Dixie Land where I was born in
Early on one frosty mornin'
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.

Chorus:
O, I wish I was in Dixie!
Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
To live and die in Dixie
Away, away,
Away down south in Dixie!

Old Missus marry Will, the weaver,
William was a gay deceiver
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.

But when he put his arm around her
He smiled as fierce as a forty pounder
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.

Chorus:
O, I wish I was in Dixie!
Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
To live and die in Dixie
Away, away,
Away down south in Dixie!

His face was sharp as a butcher's cleaver
But that did not seem to grieve her
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.
Old Missus acted the foolish part
And died for a man that broke her heart
Look away! Look away!
Look away! Dixie Land.

Chorus:
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Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
To live and die in Dixie
Away, away,
Away down south in Dixie!
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« Reply #653 on: April 27, 2005, 05:06:27 PM »
The south would have won, if we had...... shoes!
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« Reply #654 on: April 27, 2005, 05:59:14 PM »
Hey
(or Hay?)

Please don't hijack this thread and bring it into the cotton industry.
This is a Spitfire vs MesserSCHMIDT thread, so please keep to the topic    :D


So, comments on the graph???
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« Reply #655 on: April 28, 2005, 12:54:53 AM »
LONG LIVE GENERAL LEE !




Yeeeeee - haa!
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« Reply #656 on: April 28, 2005, 11:04:07 AM »
Hey now, Dont go mockin' an caryin'  on about the General.
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« Reply #657 on: April 28, 2005, 01:32:10 PM »
I'll take General Grant over Lee.
Rather nice Whisky, - Grant's.

So, how about the graph....errr...the precioussss????
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #658 on: April 29, 2005, 12:23:01 PM »
At the end of the day, the Spit shot down more 109's than the other way round, the spit prevented the Germans from having air superiority over the Uk, No matter how people will try and explain this, the fact remains, The Spit beat the 109 when it mattered -Period
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« Reply #659 on: April 29, 2005, 12:35:18 PM »
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At the end of the day, the Spit shot down more 109's than the other way round, the spit prevented the Germans from having air superiority over the Uk, No matter how people will try and explain this, the fact remains, The Spit beat the 109 when it mattered -Period


Umm ... no. The Spit did not shoot down more 109s. They (with the help of the Hurricanes) did however shoot down enough LW bombers to get the job done.

No other aircraft in history shot down more planes than the 109.
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