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Offline JB82

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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2004, 05:05:55 PM »
Been here for two years now, thank you very much.

Offline Shane

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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2004, 05:07:53 PM »
so what's your excuse for still flying so timidly? :rolleyes:
Surrounded by suck and underwhelmed with mediocrity.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2004, 05:08:35 PM »
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So is this the part where all the timid people get together and reassure themselves that they really aren't *******?  

I love that part...


Looking further past this down the thread it looks more like the part where the inflated egos gravitate toward one another and form a daisychain. :D

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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2004, 05:17:17 PM »
Never mind...
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Offline Shane

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2004, 05:17:46 PM »
apparently this is also where the not-quite-totally-timid-but-terminally-clueless-who-have-nothing-better-to-do-than-post-in-a-hoity-toity-manner make their presence known.
Surrounded by suck and underwhelmed with mediocrity.
I'm always right, it just takes some poepl longer to come to that realization than others.
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2004, 05:20:37 PM »
have to agree.. those that only cherrypick, bore n zoom, never commit, timid pilots bore the hell outta me. They may as well fight drones in IL2 or sightsee in MSFS.

Funny how if you catch the majority of them Co E, or at a disadvantage they are clueless what to do.
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2004, 05:23:41 PM »
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Get used to it, it isn't going to get any better.  Worse in fact, as the very few people with balls leave over time, leaving the newbies to be trained how to "fight" by the women that are left.



I resent that remark!
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2004, 05:24:03 PM »
that's not quite a totally accurate assessment furby...

they know *exactly* what to do... dive out and run screaming for help.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2004, 05:25:31 PM »
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I resent that remark!
Flying style and skill has nothing to do with gender...


agreed.  that's why i use the term, "gelding."

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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2004, 05:40:39 PM »
You private me with cursing and you can discuss it with HTC.  I'll take a picture and refer it to them.  You can then explain to them.   I will not accept cursing.  Also you get too abusive, again you can take it up with HTC.  

YA YA here we go with the thin skin stuff right?  

OH REALLY???  What else do I have?  Can we meet face to face?  Do I know where you live?  My attorney gonna contact yours?  Sending your 2nds over?  WHAT?

Hey, I pay my fee just like you.  I have the right to enjoy this MY WAY just like you have the right to enjoy this your way.  

NO I WILL NOT fly your way to please you.

Too often that seems to mean what you really want is me to fly in front of your guns and die.  I will not do so on purpose.  

I WILL NOT fly the way you want, you are not HTC, YOU HAVE NO MORE RIGHTS HERE THEN I.

Among all the individuals that sim/game here are many that can and do hand me my backside.

No Problem  (but means I gotta work harder to learn what i'm doing wrong)  

{Note: ya i get angry/upset but it's more with myself then anyone else}

Sometimes I get popped just because i'm in the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong thing.... aaarrrrggghhh LOL

No Problem  (how I fly and what I do .... it's on me not them or you, IMHO same applies to all OK???)

What you got some kinda rep to uphold?  

So exactly what is your rep is your rep that you can't deal with being shotdown by someone you consider ... what?  That you can't make some kinda mistake?  That you can't pull the wrong ACM move?

Hey I've had some really great fights and lost.  Sometimes I reup and right back in.  And lose again.  Fine I'm still learning.  And hopefully I will continue to learn.

Win or lose when I have a great fight I try to the other/others.

Got called self-righteous recently for this attitude.  huh?? meeee?? :rolleyes:

Then got told I was still young ????????
:rofl

COME ON  some of you fly extremely well in here.  So why do SOME of you gotta then become some kinda arrogant prettythang.  Is that some kinda rule in here?

Well ... HEY THAT'S ON YOU for all to see.  You go too far with this attitude with me and you will be sharing it with HTC.

What's your family life like anyways????
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2004, 05:51:59 PM »
some like to BnZ, some like to TnB, while other... well they do what they do.  that is up to you what you do, why all this crap all the time, "you dont fly like i want you too, now im gonna call you names and stuff"  .  sigh  
if you decide to put yourself in a situation due to your inflated ego and end up gettin shot down, get over it.  ive done it myself.  except ill move on and not do all this bs, PMs, BBS crap.  :(
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Offline Arlo

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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2004, 06:30:44 PM »
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apparently this is also where the not-quite-totally-timid-but-terminally-clueless-who-have-nothing-better-to-do-than-post-in-a-hoity-toity-manner make their presence known.


I wouldn't call ya terminal but that's more or less up to you. :D

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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2004, 06:36:43 PM »
i've had chn200 off for a couple days, BUT in general you will get a g/k nearly 100% of the time as i'm going down.  I tend to do it berfore I even know who shot me down.  THE most negative thing I might say would be words to the affect of "Heck of a faceshot g/k", when indeed it was a heck of a face shot.  I'm not mad at THEM for jousting, it's MY fault I was out of position, and/or didn't avoid.  Sometimes you can't help it, BUT....

I can see the point of view of both sides here.

I understand the b/z guys, I tend to do it when I'm up high, and have ton's o' nme beneath me and no friendlies.  I understand the t/b guys, because I love to knife fight.  BUT my FAVORITE thing is to find that timid guy who only sets up for faceshots/jousts and get 'em out of position and screaming.  It is true that when you show up behind them co E, they act like "oh shoot, what do I do??".  You can almost SEE them try and figure out what to do, all fip flopin' around and doing stupid moves, and that gives me a chuckle.  

If you can't say g/k, or S! the guy that killed you, don't say anything at all.  If some obvious inferiour pilot shoots you down, it's in general YOUR fault.  You were out o' position, or your SA was lacking at that moment, whatever.  OR maybe they just pulled off a good shot.  Either way nutin' to whine about.  Just re-up and go hunting.
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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2004, 07:15:20 PM »
After reading countless numbers of these kinds of posts, I have come to a conclusion:  the timid fliers just don't get it.  The evil furballer doesn't want you to fly his way so he can kill you.  That is the ultimate goal, yes, but what he wants you to do is take the situation you are in and exploit it to the maximum ammount of benefit, as he would.  That's why these guys are so good, not because they are uberpilots or cheat or get lucky, because time in and time out they know how to exploit advantage or even weakness to its maximum potential.  In the long run this is going to garner you many kills and get you out of extremely hazardous situations.    

That means if you are an la7 driver or 190 fighting a slower lower foe, take the advantage in your situation and use it.  I bet if you do without having to call your 5 friends in to help, these so called "whiners" will give you a big on ch200 when you shoot them down.  I know I would.  

You should equate alt and E to cash flow.  The more of both, the more cash you have in the bank.  But what's the point of having money if you're not ever going to spend it?  I can't tell you how many times I've been in the P40 and I come across a lala dweeb in a 1 on 1, where he obviously has a massive E advantage compared to me.  But what does he do?  Tries to ho me (in a pitiful attempt) and then bee lines outta there as fast as he came in.  Not even an attempt to fight.  If I turn to follow, he keeps running.  By the time he's 5-6k away I might find one of his buddies to tangle with.  THEN he comes around, but only for another ho.  Does everyone not see the fault in this?  Unless I get lucky and force some kind of overshoot or I ho him back I'm a goner, EVERY time.  But he refuses to use every single advantage he has, because why? I have no idea.  I'd love to pick apart the brains of someone like Razor, Kite777, Metatron and countless others.  My only guess is pure lack of confidence in one's ability to take advantage of the situtation at hand.  

What they do is pure waste, plain and simple.  They own the entire engagement yet decide its too dangerous because the guy might have a snowballs chance in hell of getting them.  Yet, as Urchin pointed out, they still will go for a ho every time.  WTF is with this logic?  It would be like these guys were dealt a royal flush off the draw in poker, yet still folded because the other guy might have a higher numbered royal flush.  Hell, I'd probably go all in on one pair lol.  

Maybe the problem is the old vets in the game haven't been active enough in teaching the pups about how to fly and to fight, I don't know.  What I do know is game play sucks, as every thread in the BB's points out, no matter which side of the fence you are on.  Now, before you guys bash me and others who have already made statements in this thread, I will repeat what I said before, and I'm sure 99% of the guys who know how to fight will agree with me.  It's not that we want you to fly "our" way, it's that we want you to fly and use every advantage you have.  If you're in trouble, running is perfectly fine with me.  But we aren't talking about that.   We are talking about when you hold all the cards and have the barrel of the gun pressed up agains the other guy's head.  In that situation, it's your prerogative to use all that you have in the bag to down the other guy, because if you don't he might go on to kill more of your countrymen or even worse your squaddies.  So look at it as an opportunity to help your coutrymen and your friends.  The less enemies left in the air, the less chance you or they will die.  So get up, fly that late war hog, get in there and get the job done.  Otherwise, you are doing a serious disservice to all who you fly with and call friends, because friends do everything they can to help one another.  Running from a perfectly good chance to remove a threat is hardly helping.

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« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2004, 07:27:22 PM »
Cracks me up when I hear certian people whine about dieing (most know the top 5 whiners) on CH 200. Funny thing is NO ONE CARES  how you died. and if they'd just keep there inmature mouths shut, only a couple of people would even know they died.
At least if those types are going to rant and cry on CH200 they could at least get some new material. The same old crap everytime, Calling people Morons, idiots and the such. So for those that always whine after they die please use some variety. The 5th grade stuff is getting old :) Or just grow up and keep quiet. Which is what 98% in the MA would rather you did anyway. :cool:
Don't mistake the above with Good ole Fun Razzing amongst friends that fly for another country. Good hearted Razzing is always fun.

And I agree with Stang on the timid pilot statement above. Nicely put Stang.
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