Sore Losers

[Pongo]

Because 82 some people are whiners. they are whiners here and whiners in the game.

[Speznaz]

Great post  Kweassa .

[stegor]

Just wondering what's the opposite of   "Timid" ; maybe "the very best"?

Is this the dichotomy in AH?

A sore loser is better or worse of a sore winner?

[MOIL]

This place just keeps getting better & better:rolleyes:

Carry on

[TequilaChaser]

Originally posted by Stang
It would be like these guys were dealt a royal flush off the draw in poker, yet still folded because the other guy might have a higher numbered royal flush.  Hell, I'd probably go all in on one pair lol.  
 

play cards much?  do you know which hand would be the winner if player A had a Spade Royal Flush and player B had a diamond royal flush? btw the A,K,Q,J,10  of same suite= Royal Flush


going back now to read rest of this thread  


added: finished reading it, liked what you said there Stang , I would like to see others give it all they have

also liked what Kweassa posted for the most part:aok

[101ABN]

i like cheese

[Tilt]

PM'ing insults (if thats what this is about) is out of order IMO.

Period


Put it on Channel 200.......... if the guy does not want to read them then he has a right not to.

The timid flying debate is one where players of a certain skill and playing style want others to play in a similar style because it makes stuff more enjoyable for them.

Alot of it is experten trying to get folk to set them selves up for the experten to kill. Some (but very little it seems to me) is a plea for better game play..........however as the main method of persuasion seems to be moans, whines, derogatory comments and insults, I fear for its success.

I agree with kweassa that satisfaction does not only have to come from the kill............if you forced someone to run then you have won the engagement, we all know this,

we know when we have been out manouvered,

we know when we have out manouvered others,

we know when our opponent has just held an advantage to no effect but stalemate.

we know when we have played just too safe

we know when we cherry pick

we know when we vulch

we know when we spawn camp

we know when we join a daisy chain

we know when we run


Yet to a lesser or greater extent we all do it, or some of it.

Players will choose the form of gameplay that suits their level of skill and gives them the most enjoyment.

[101ABN]

Originally posted by Fruda
The timid pilots are really starting to get on my nerves.

Just two days ago, I was fighting an La-7 in my 109-G2. I got a few shots off and pinged him, and instead of turning to get a kill, he ran. I was low and slow at the time, and since he had more speed, he decided to climb and run at altitude. I couldn't catch him.

What makes me mad is the fact that he was in an La-7. He could have handed my bellybutton to me, but he just had to be a wuss and run.

that could have been me, i think that you were 200 yards behind me at one point.  if it was me then yea i admit... my out of ammo wuss butt ran.  if it wasnt me then my out of ammo wuss butt still ran.    

[Vudak]

Maybe some people really do enjoy flying in a way others would call "timid", I suppose, and, hey, power to them, it's their $15, it's their relaxation, they can do whatever they like, I'm not going to give them a mouthful about it...

That said though, I have to wonder, if at least some of the people who fly "timid" are not doing it so much because they enjoy it, as because they feel that they cannot beat a certain plane , or situation, in the plane they are in.

The obvious observement is that, yep, you can't beat that plane, or that situation, if you never try to and figure out what works and what doesn't.

But if they would try, man, they might just suprise themselves.  I know I have.

I just wish that someone who says "I'm in a Mustang....  I'd better not get close to that P-38" would take a look at Flyboy's film in the help & training section...  That was a really great film of how it's possible to beat a 38 close in with a Mustang.  He didn't beat a bad pilot, either, he beat Rocky, and Rocky's not too bad at all.

Again, if it's your cup of tea to fly "timid", by all means, enjoy.  I'm not going to tell you not to (heck, what's it matter to me?  Your in my fight a whole 2-3 seconds out of every minute, whatever).  Still, if you'd like to not fly so timidly, yet are concerned of "failure" just remember, you get a new plane if you die, so by all means, push yourself, and pay attention.  Eventually you'll do well.

[Zanth]

Originally posted by JB82
What is the deal with certain people sending private messages to you when you shoot them down, talking *^*#?  If you don't like being shot down then don't fly.  I am far from being a good pilot so when certain people get shot down, by little poor ranking me, they get bent all out of shape.  If you don't have the guts to say these things face to face in real life you should keep your mouth shut, and I bet those that run their mouth on-line are some of the wimpiest people on the face of this Earth.  Do I have so much control over you that I can make you mad?

GROW UP!    

A better approach is to type .squelch then forget about it.  If it was too bad to just forget about then email HTC.  Posting on this board will never make it better - ever.

[JB73]

Originally posted by Urchin
Oh, I wasn't calling you names.  I simply asked why you'd take a chance on a joust if you are that scared to fight.  You were making bore n zoom passes for a good 10 minutes while I was going after other planes, you wouldn't even commit to that if it was just the two of us.  

I've always been puzzled why the timid women are the ones that will almost always go for the joust, even when they are afraid to make a regular bore n zoom pass one someone, so I asked.  

Apparently you learned to "fight" from your squad, which is ok.  You also apparently picked up their really thin skin, which is ok too, I guess.  I'd probably have thin skin to if I flew like a ***** and got called on it all the time.

Oh, and by the way.. I'd be happy to say anything I say in here to anyones face.  I understand a lot of the JBs are 6'10, 300 lbs of pure internet muscle... but I guess I don't scare easy.

well JB82 learned to fly way before joining us... but we do try and instill a sence of survivability in our squadmates. makes for better teamwork, and mroe fun for all who virtually "live"

so you think if someone does not fly exactly like you want, into your gunsights, they are a "woman flier"?

you got shot down by what you consider in your tiny mind as an "inferior" pilot, and decided it would be best to private tune that gentelman and belittle him.

wtg urchin. you are and always will be the epotimy of the flight sim community. considers himself the best stick in the game, has no class or sence of respect for a fellow man, no comprehension of the differences in ideals or motives for someone to fly, basically a whiny little school girl.

grow up and grow a pair. you get shot down either the virtual "foe" or shutup. if you absoulty can not refrain from saying something do it on CH200 for all to see what an arse you are. dont hide what you are, be proud and stand tall for all other morons to look up to.

[Urchin]

No, Hartmann... I didn't belittle him.  I asked him a question.  He apparently belittled himself...

By the way....  your squad is so bad I literally have to suicide into your planes to kill myself...  yet in your "tiny little minds" you believe you are the best of the best.  

I was actually trying to clarify why your squadmate, who was plainly terrified of dying (or at least fighting, leading one to believe that he assumed he would die if he got below 400 mph), would basically flip a coin to see how the engagement would end.  In your typical joust, there are 3 outcomes.  One plane dies, the other plane dies, or both planes die.  In a regular "fight", even one of the bore n zoom variety, usually only one plane dies.  

So why would someone who is scared to take a "regular" i.e. "non-joust" shot basically just flip that coin?  

I already told you why I did it.. I was bored stiff and had nowhere to RTB to.. so I didn't much care one way or the other.  But I am always curious as to why other people do the things they do, so I asked.  

I was actually quite surprised, at first I didn't think it was a JaBore no matter how timidly he was flying... I think that is the first time I've ever seen one of you guys even get near an enemy plane all by yourself.

I already know the reason for your (collective) behaviour, I was curious as to the reasoning behind the individual in questions actions.  

He (and you) take it as some sort of indictment on his manhood... it wasn't.  Perhaps an indictment of his intelligence.. the wiser course of action would have been to just run me out of gas and strafe me as I ditched, but I'm sure one of you "aces" will guide him along the path of enlightenment on that score.  

In any case, it doesn't really matter.  He supplied an explanation in the thread, in between protestations of his virility, so I'm satisfied.  

I could really give a **** what your pack of newbs thinks of me in any case... it isn't like I lose any sleep at night over it.  But if it makes you feel better trying to one-up me in a game of insults, blather away.

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by Furball
have to agree.. those that only cherrypick, bore n zoom, never commit, timid pilots bore the hell outta me. They may as well fight drones in IL2 or sightsee in MSFS.

Funny how if you catch the majority of them Co E, or at a disadvantage they are clueless what to do.

And that's just the point. If they don't catch you from behind while your engaged you can usually avoid them and turn the tables on them. That is if they stay around long enough.

There's no shame in knowing when you are beaten and escaping so you can come back and fight from a better position. It's another to zoom in take your shots and run like hell.

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by WMLute

If you can't say g/k, or S! the guy that killed you, don't say anything at all.  If some obvious inferiour pilot shoots you down, it's in general YOUR fault.  You were out o' position, or your SA was lacking at that moment, whatever.  OR maybe they just pulled off a good shot.  Either way nutin' to whine about.  Just re-up and go hunting.

How true.  I'm sure I've been shot down by some very good pilots but I can assure you that I made a mistake that gave them the edge they needed to get it done. Most times I acknowledge it with a S! unless I'm to buzy cussing myself out.

[RTSigma]

Call the fire department, this is going to turn into a flame war.