Author Topic: conspiracy theory on history channel.. (Read 3410 times)

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #30 on:** November 25, 2004, 05:54:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Shuckins

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No other evidence has EVER come to light concerning the presence of another shooter.

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Read the 1978 House assassinations committee report, for official evidence. Use the other 99% of your common sense for the real eveidence.

the real world is scary, the land of make believe is not.

lazs2 · « **Reply #31 on:** November 25, 2004, 09:15:12 AM »

fact is that someone from that window in the depository fired 4 shots and one of those shots killed kennedy. That person looked like oswald and oswald carried a package the size of a gun up there... he latter ran away and shot a cop when cornered.

Anone who believes the "pristeen" bullet crap is being conned... the bullet was a solid and it was dented and highly flattened. I have seen bullets look better after hitting a solid dirt bank at half again that speed.

face it... the guy manged to shoot kennedy. who knows if it was his idea or not?

lazs

Shuckins · « **Reply #32 on:** November 25, 2004, 10:07:57 AM »

The sewer drain was ruled out by modern police experts because of the difficult angle to the target and the narrowness of the aperture. How could a sniper have fired from that position, with people standing literally on top of him and directly across the road, and not be seen?

This same police investigation, after studying photographs and films taken by spectators all around the plaza, ruled that no shot could have come from the grassy knoll, for there was no one in position there. Nor could the shot have come from the highway overpass toward which Kennedy's limo was headed. No one was there either.

oswald fired three shots. The first missed and was never recovered. The second hit both Kennedy and Connelly. The third hit Kennedy in the head. The massive shock of that death wound caused his body to arch in agony. The human body almost always arches up and back under such an injury to the brain. Arm-chair detectives have erroneously assumed that this movement was caused by a bullet strike from the front. The force of the blow exploded pieces of Kennedy's brain and skull in every direction. A single large piece landed on the rear of the limo. Again, nimrod arm-chair investigators have assumed that this meant a bullet strike from the front.

It is possible that Oswald was working for someone or some agency. Nevertheless, he acted alone.

Truth is never as dramatic or entertaining as fantasy.

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #33 on:** November 25, 2004, 10:34:33 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
fact is that someone from that window in the depository fired 4 shots and one of those shots killed kennedy. That person looked like oswald and oswald carried a package the size of a gun up there... he latter ran away and shot a cop when cornered.

Anone who believes the "pristeen" bullet crap is being conned... the bullet was a solid and it was dented and highly flattened. I have seen bullets look better after hitting a solid dirt bank at half again that speed.

face it... the guy manged to shoot kennedy. who knows if it was his idea or not?

lazs

uhhhh..the oswald theory is based on him firing 3 shots. any more wouldve been impossible to do in the amount of time and confirmed the conspiracy theory as fact.
If it was just a matter of an incridible bullet doing massive damage and coming out looking like a bullet fired in a water tank, then fine, wow. But the x rays of connallys wrist show more fragments than what is missing from the magic bullet, eliminationg the magic bullet as a possibility of the projectile that did the damage to connallys wrist. Therefore, the magic bullet thoery is impossible in the real world.
To try to clear things up, the magic bullet is the only piece of evidence that links the Manlicher carcano rifle to the murder of JFK. They couldve fished pieces of bullets out of the presidents brain for more evidence, but, they uhhhhh, forgot. Yea thats the ticket, forgot. Not only that, they couldve used the presidents brain to find beyond any doubt the angle of the fatal headshot, but, they, uhhh forgot to do that in the autopsy also. But dont blame the doctor at the autopsy, it was his first homicide autopsy.

When some """conspiracy theorist'''' got wind of this 'slight oversight', he went to the national archives to retrieve the presidents brain for further examination, and to put to rest any conspiracy theories.
Drats, somebody lost the brain.

So, you can see why, even if oswald was the lone assassin, some people get a little suspicious and demand, that at least a professional investigation and perhaps, god forbid, a trial take place when one of our Presidients is murdered. What if the mob murdered Kennedy to take control of the white house, and thus, our military? This would all come out at the trial.
So, for some good reading try High Treason by Robert Grodin, this is very slanted for the conspiracy theory side, but it brings up some serious questions about the assassination. Also has some pics that are quite obviously faked autposy photos to help prove the 'official story'. After the zapruder film surfaced, the photos were obviously not that of the head of JFK AFTER the assasination and had to be admitted by the 'officials' as 'softened' because the originals were too gruesome.
For a good movie thats not quite so slanted, there is JFK i think by stanley Kubrick. A very good movie regardless fo what you believe.
The times we live in are very exciting if you use your own senses to draw your own conclusions.

EN4CER · « **Reply #34 on:** November 25, 2004, 10:40:43 AM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Why are all the biggest America haters here usually conspiracy nuts too?

GRUNHERZ - I love our country but it is quite obvious there was more that one shooter involved in the Kennedy Assignation. I have always found it intriguing how our premier law enforcement division, the FBI manages to foul up major investigations (Whether its done deliberately or not is another question). I have had a front row seat to cover ups on a minor level where the monkey wrench was deliberately thrown into an investigation to hink it up. We had an incident involving some high up bosses but phone calls were made to the DAs office by the Chief of Police (Retired now thank God and will always be a piece of S*** in my eyes) and it ended up as “A simple misunderstanding” – “Boys will be boys” BS! It made our Internal Affairs Division look like incompetent morons. I don’t like being privy to these things and what sucks worse is that you become powerless caught up in them especially when you are at the bottom of the food chain. We have new Administration now and I am proud once again of our department and the way Accountability is enforced. I don’t want go on a tangent but I worked the night of the TWA Flight 800 tragedy. I witnessed it from a great distance – to me it looked like a massive firework going off far away. I always found it interesting that the FBI told over 300 witnesses “You did not see that – You all saw this.”

lazs2 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 25, 2004, 11:50:51 AM »

sorry... 3 shots fired and one chambered. I have never seen any evidence that suggested that there were fragments of the bullet taken from connelys wrist that were inconsistent with the facts.

There is no magic bullet... the bullet acted in a very normal way. It did very normal damage and was not a particularly spectacular or even lucky shot.

I have no idea where you are from but in this universe that is the way bullets act... sorry.

lazs

VOR · « **Reply #36 on:** November 25, 2004, 12:11:02 PM »

If you think a second shooter fired from the sewer grate, perhaps you know too much.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #37 on:** November 25, 2004, 12:31:49 PM »

The killing shot came from the sewer gate and blew JFK's forehead off.

The 6.5 was accurate slow and did not damage at all. All of those who used it in WW2 got their tulips kicked. The gun Oswald had was not accurate though. You could put the muzzle up to your foot, pull the trigger and still miss. I'm not saying that Oswald didn't try, he sure did. But he didn't hit anything.

I still mantain it was the CIA punishing JFK for all the men he killed at the Bay of Pigs. It was JFK who botched it because he only launched half the invasion.

Shuckins · « **Reply #38 on:** November 25, 2004, 02:03:37 PM »

Actually, I have it from a top-level CIA source that, now you didn't hear this from me, that Rod Serling did it.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #39 on:** November 25, 2004, 02:10:46 PM »

Sooooooooo the evil sewer people from below did it now....

Furball · « **Reply #40 on:** November 25, 2004, 03:09:49 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Sooooooooo the evil sewer people from below did it now....

yes, the french did it!

SLO · « **Reply #41 on:** November 25, 2004, 04:32:21 PM »

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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
BS

You clearly want obvious facts removed from history books because you dont like them...

Not only are you insane you are a liar too.

And I'm smart enough to NOT listen to delusional folks like you

Gh0stFT · « **Reply #42 on:** November 25, 2004, 06:16:42 PM »

DREDIOCK wrote:
We may know eventually the whole truth.
Or at least some of the youngest members here may eventually know.
but the whole truth wont be let out until well after anyone even remotely connected to the case is dead

and why that? if it was Osswald why hide it for years???
whats behind all that hide? i want it now!
not possible? lol

Osswald = E.T. ?

SunTracker · « **Reply #43 on:** November 25, 2004, 06:41:36 PM »

Oswald was left handed. Laz, don't you operate the bolt action with your right hand? Now even if Oswald practiced alot with his right hand, he still wouldnt have been able to operate the rifle as fast as a normal right handed individual.

SLO · « **Reply #44 on:** November 25, 2004, 07:03:03 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The killing shot came from the sewer gate and blew JFK's forehead off.

The 6.5 was accurate slow and did not damage at all. All of those who used it in WW2 got their tulips kicked. The gun Oswald had was not accurate though. You could put the muzzle up to your foot, pull the trigger and still miss. I'm not saying that Oswald didn't try, he sure did. But he didn't hit anything.

I still mantain it was the CIA punishing JFK for all the men he killed at the Bay of Pigs. It was JFK who botched it because he only launched half the invasion.

Just no time to search, to busy at work, but your idea is pretty much what I'm thinking too...along those lines anyways

btw anyone know were the magic bullet was found?

I'm trying real hard Shuckins to try and see things the way you say, just haven't seen much of solid evidence pointing to no conspiracy...

You say Oswald, alone, I say with others, hence his patsie comment, he felt cheated somehow, cries panstie, or if he was looking for recognition he was going the wrong way about it...

research carefully his background, pay specific attention to his radar ops days in Japon for U2's...and the consequences.