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Offline straffo

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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2004, 04:22:48 AM »
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No what got us involved in Viet Nam was trying to shore up the French as they were losing their colony.


Damm I'm learning each day in this BBS.

This sentence is completly false ,there is about a 10 year difference between last French and 1st US intervention.

But I guess you prefer a version where you were dragued in the vietnam conflict by the evil French...
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2004, 04:32:47 AM »
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Damm I'm learning each day in this BBS.

This sentence is completly false ,there is about a 10 year difference between last French and 1st US intervention.

But I guess you prefer a version where you were dragued in the vietnam conflict by the evil French...


no, no, no, they will claim they saved you and the world in vietnam, you owe them lots of money and you should worship daily at your america shrine to show your gratitude.
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2004, 04:38:43 AM »
Babek nailed it.
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2004, 04:46:06 AM »
Yep Babek nailed it ...

BUT he failled to follow the initial intent of this thread,
he posted facts (that can be checked) and a credible analysis

WHERE IS THE FRENCH BASHING Babek ?


It's all in the spirit ! :p
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2004, 04:52:58 AM »
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WHERE IS THE FRENCH BASHING Babek ?


It's all in the spirit ! :p



Hey - I am an Iranian living in Germany and so I have only highest respect for the french culture and history, but maybe I have just been succesfully indoctrinated by Old Europe ;)

The last thing I would do is French Bashing or inventing funny new words like "Freedom Fries" or "Freedom Kiss" :D
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2004, 05:25:24 AM »
So if they're recruiting in France....what the heck are the French doing about it?

Honestly, the best way to realize fighting is pointless in this world is to think about your children.

Do you want them to grow up and be something in their life, or die because you're arguing because Craig didn't return the mower he promised or try to convert people to Christianity (I hate spelling that, I prefer Catholism)
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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2004, 05:51:58 AM »
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Originally posted by straffo
Yep Babek nailed it ...

BUT he failled to follow the initial intent of this thread,
he posted facts (that can be checked) and a credible analysis

WHERE IS THE FRENCH BASHING Babek ?


It's all in the spirit ! :p


It's bad enough we saved your arses in WW1, and WW2 straffo, and you beat us in the rugby last week - now this! :mad: :mad:


Saudi money...pakistani schools (and include ultra islamic "schools" across the world)...

...but what the hell are the French doin about it!!!!!!! :mad:


:p :D

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ps. Babek- nailed it
« Last Edit: November 28, 2004, 05:54:47 AM by -tronski- »
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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2004, 06:36:36 AM »
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or try to convert people to Christianity (I hate spelling that, I prefer Catholism)


You don't consider Roman Catholics to be Christians?

:)
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2004, 06:39:15 AM »
Straffo,

There was no french bashing intended. If YOU look at the history you will find we started to send military aid to the french before dien bien phu. That was the start of our involvement in the region. Sorry to bust your bubble, feel free to feel sorry for yourself and country all you want.

As far as our combat involvement was concerned that was almost exclusively lbj's doing.
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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2004, 07:09:23 AM »
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No what got us involved in Viet Nam was trying to shore up the French as they were losing their colony.


Damm I'm learning each day in this BBS.

This sentence is completly false ,there is about a 10 year difference between last French and 1st US intervention.

But I guess you prefer a version where you were dragued in the vietnam conflict by the evil French...


Ya could be right but maybe you should check the facts before putting typing fingers on the keyboard. ;)

or possibly history has it wrong and you have a version you would care to enlighten us with???

1950

Chinese, Soviets Offer Weapons to Vietminh

US Pledges $15M to Aid French:    The United States sends $15 million dollars in military aid to the French for the war in Indochina. Included in the aid package is a military mission and military advisors.

1955

Diem Rejects Conditions of Geneva Accords, Refuses to Participate in Nationwide Elections

China and Soviet Union Pledge Additional Financial Support to Hanoi

Diem Urged to Negotiate with North:     Britain, France, and United States covertly urge Diem to respect Geneva accords and conduct discussions with the North.

Diem Becomes President of Republic of Vietnam:    Diem defeats Bao Dai in rigged election and proclaims himself President of Republic of Vietnam.

1956

French Leave Vietnam

US Training South Vietnamese:     The US Military Assistance Advisor Group (MAAG) assumes responsibility, from French, for training South Vietnamese forces.

Appears the evil U.S. empire was in somewhat less than ten years after the French left.
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« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2004, 07:26:08 AM »
The only mistake we made in Vietnam was supporting Franch colonial imperilasim there after WW2.  During the war US operatives got very close with Ho Chi Minh, in fact his US OSS (later to be CIA) advisers were on stage with him on film of a big speech  the end of WW2. Some of his movement was inspired by US ideas even...  Unfortunately we had to drop him and support our French "allies."  

We gave France planes, tanks, rifles pretty much everthing so they could crush the vietnamese people in the 1950s.

And what did we get for all the suppot of the frence? We got a degaulle France that told us to screw off..

There is that great saying:

France, they are always there when they need you....
« Last Edit: November 28, 2004, 07:30:47 AM by GRUNHERZ »
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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2004, 08:25:51 AM »
Mmm France :)

A great country with great people.

Just ignore him my french friends
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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2004, 08:41:56 AM »
"You know, I agree, every time we fight back we just create more radicals. Therfore we should do nothing and preferably withdraw from the world. That way everything will be fine and the muslims will hopefully start killing the french again."

thats so wrong and yet makes so much sense... :) ;)
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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2004, 11:02:47 AM »
War is inevitable.  War is already here.
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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2004, 11:50:05 AM »
Maverick & MrBill

When was US involvement comparable to the French one  ?
It don't start in 1956,when did the Tokin gulf incident took place ?
It will be about 1964 no ? not 1956...

GRUN it was a very stupid post ,you even managed to put de Gaulle in this nice try :)




-tronski- I give you a 10/10 ;)
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