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Offline MANDO

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What is the purpose of current heavy ack?
« on: November 29, 2004, 05:27:31 PM »
It is not effective against bombers, but ruins any fighter combat "near" CVs, bases or factories. Do we play AH to be kilt by a random puff generator?

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2004, 05:45:19 PM »
Just hit auto pilot and fly through the puffy ack, it will never touch you. Otoh if you try juking to avoid it you WILL take hits from it. At least thats my experience with puffy acks.
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Re: What is the purpose of current heavy ack?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2004, 07:24:56 PM »
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It is not effective against bombers, but ruins any fighter combat "near" CVs, bases or factories. Do we play AH to be kilt by a random puff generator?



I believe its purpose is to kill me, after I fly 10 minutes looking for a fight.

To date it has been very successful in regard to that purpose.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2004, 07:40:26 PM »
puffy ack 10 to 0 k/d ratio lol


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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2004, 10:29:15 PM »
puffy ack holds its spot as my number 1 killer with 29 deaths to field guns and ship ack.

funnily enough, the number 2 spot is held by the king of camping, the Tiger tank with 28 deaths.

3rd place is the spit mkvb with 22 deaths

4th: la7 with 21 deaths


5th: Dora/panser equal at 20 deaths.


saying that, the C-47 has two kills on me, and even the noble chute has one kill :D

puffy ack is fine how it is, just dont be a dummy like me and fly within 5k of a CV.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2004, 12:47:40 PM »
sometimes ya get the bear - sometimes the bear gets you.

How bout in real life when  ww2 pilots  flew alot longer than 10 minutes to get to a target only to have some flak burst hit near and send a nice hot piece of metal into their plane, or worse their head. Don't say it didn't happen then - don't say it shouldn't happen now in AH.

Fighter combat near an NME carrier, factory or what not - is just another thing that would fall under Situational Awareness...besides the planes around you-  you're takin ack fire... Smart thing - take the fight away from the ack...
« Last Edit: November 30, 2004, 12:58:42 PM by Waffle »

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2004, 12:52:40 PM »
How about in real life when soldiers got dysentary, and really bad sunburns that hurt really bad, and jeep drivers' disease.  I think all those should be modelled because it happened in real life.

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2004, 12:57:16 PM »
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sometimes ya get the bear - sometimes the bear gets you.

How bout in real life when  ww2 pilots  flew alot longer than 10 minutes to get to a target only to have some flak burst hit near and send a nice hot piece of metal into their plane, or worse their head. Don't say it didn't happen then - don't say it shouldn't happen now in AH.


Yes, we want the puffy stuff to kill bombers.  They it works now is if you put your plane on auto and fly through it nice an slow nothing happens to you.  If you fly fast or start turning (dog fight) you are dead.  Some times your own puff will get you in a dog fight.  Meanwhile, bomber formations fly over the CV and take no hits.

I say make the puff thiker and make it kill you if you fly slow and straight and if you are big (buff).  Remove the Star Trek trageting system that can lock on to a fighter doing loops/turns/dives etc and kill it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2004, 01:06:01 PM »
I WANT JEEP DRIVERS DISEASE.

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2004, 01:06:45 PM »
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I WANT JEEP DRIVERS DISEASE.


isn't penile warts enough?!?!?!
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2004, 01:10:27 PM »
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Yes, we want the puffy stuff to kill bombers.  



But not fighters that are turning? I think it's an equal opportunity ack burst :)

Plus you have to account for the size of the plane - you might take a hit near a bomber and loose an engine, or control surfaces - direct hits are usually pretty bad...

but if your're in a fighter - a nearby burst will cause a lot more damge, plus the pilot isn't as protected as they are in some bombers.
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2004, 01:30:47 PM »
Ive been killed twice while in a dogfight in the last week by puffy ack.  At the very least there should be no 88 fire while in the proximity of its friendly aircraft.  Also it would be a little more immersive if they did not shoot at you when there is a mountain between yourself and the source.

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2004, 03:15:30 PM »
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But not fighters that are turning? I think it's an equal opportunity ack burst :)

Plus you have to account for the size of the plane - you might take a hit near a bomber and loose an engine, or control surfaces - direct hits are usually pretty bad...

but if your're in a fighter - a nearby burst will cause a lot more damge, plus the pilot isn't as protected as they are in some bombers.


My bad, did not word it correctly.  If the fighter gets hit, it should go down.  I was just saing that when a small fighter is in the process of changing direction and altitude constantly, it would be impossible for the gun crew to fuse and aim within the time it does now.  The buffs however, are moving straight and slow and they don;t get hit.

Equal opportunity would be fine.  It just seems that its not.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2004, 03:30:19 PM »
IMO it is not a matter of real or unreal heavy ack effectiveness against fighters. The problem is that this is a game, and heavy ack ruins the fun of players and do not add anything else to the game.

Currently all the fights are always near some place with heavy ack, it is very rare to find a fight in the middle of nothing.