Why do strat players seem so threatened by furballers?

[Cooley]

are there really camps?
of the hundred or so guys i know who play AH...
seems all enjoy a bit of both

[BlackCross]

I love a good furball now and again, I also sometimes like to disrupt the steamrolling hoard by blasting the troop training and barracks at the front.

Sometimes all I want to do is fly a Spit I or Hurri I and surprise the hell out of Zero pilots and shoot down Nikis   Other times I want to carpet bomb the heck out of some target.

[Stang]

Yeah, I do whatever also.  Heck, I flew some B24's last night and took out a CV group (not coming in at 50 feet, lamers).  That's not the point of this thread.   The point is, and maybe I should have elaborated on this more clearly, is why the vocal minority of guys who like to fight (not necessarily furball, but simply fight) are in the minority and are constantly demonized by the hordes of timid milkrunning strat potatos who wouldn't know what to do if they were given someone's 6.  Since the milkrunning strat potato is the majority now, and is frankly killing gameplay on all levels, why are more people not waking up to the fact that what they do is timid, lame, no fun, skilless, unimaginative and simply stupid.  I think this is the gist of every thread that the "furballers" post in.  For the most part, the guys that like to mix it up are the vets, they have seen what a great community and gameplay can be like, and I suggest people listen to them, instead of accusing them of being sore losers, deck hugging spit weenies, or whatever else comes to the guy's mind who likes to fly la7's in packs of 20, only ho/jousts and only vulches then runs home when a con gets within 6k.

[LYNX]

I'm a land grabber 75% of the time but I do enjoy a good fight.  By good fight I don't mean me against 5 cons or upping from a vulched field.

As for being threatened by furballers.... err no!  Furballers tend to, on the whole,  fight furballers so the previuos post about tying up cons is a bit of a none plus.

It can be a tad frustrating watching what we (Strat guys) consider to be a waist of man power over a field of absolutly no stratigacal or tactical advange.  So, at times,  we have to resort to things like.......... " Great furball @ xyz" or "Vulch light on @ xyz" especially when we need extra hands to make the capture.  We get to shoot the tool sheds, bomb Wendy's, para drop on Kmart, advance into NME lands and turn 1 bunch of pixels green.
The furballers get to shoot the die hard cons, land their kills and see their name in lights.....not forgetting perkies for the ultra rides and maybe a base with alt advantage.  

Now for a tongue in cheek remark.... AH's most common Furballers quote.....  "It's my $15".  Which a lot a folk take as being the short version of " **** you lot, I'm OK"

[streetstang]

Yup, what stang said is true. In both posts. Sad but true.

Newbs haven't a clue what a good fight is like...  I mean the kind of fight were you give it your all, and win lose or draw you know, that at that point, during that fight, you couldnt have done any better. Hell, alot of these self proclaimed "VETS" dont even know.

[SLO]

best of both worlds...

learn to strat and furball...

woow whatta concept...

wait!!!


maybe I should fly slow, but fast is cool, but slow you can turn better, ah, but fast your smarter, but but but

pointless wouldn't you say

[mechanic]

My only point here would be that its not 'all' the newbies who like timidity.

Most of my squad have been playing under 1 1/2 years, and we all like to furball 99% of the time.

guess thats why we call ourselves a 'Fighter Squad'

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[4510]

Originally posted by Kweassa


 Its no wonder the strat players get cranky - wiping furballer prettythang is usually a very thankless job.

Ah but isn't equally frustrating when the strat folks care more about taking a base, any base, than actually taking bases that matter?  Running around grabbing back water bases while avoiding the enemy that is grabbing friendly bases?

What term do you use for them?  Milkrunners?  They aren't really good strat folks... and they sure aren't furballers because avoiding a fight and grabbing the easy base seems to be their cup of tea.

[KurtVW]

Guys,
Before we all get deeply entrenched in this discussion... can I ask you one thing...

Who Cares?

Go in the game, fly your style, then go to bed.  Nobody really cares what your specific reasons are except you... This board exists only for your mental masterbation.

Play the damn game.

[Simaril]

I've recently started a strat thread, so I'm not sure if I'm being included as a "threatened" strat player. Like SLO, I have fun doing both.

You want to furball, great. I like to find a good balanced furball, after growing enough into the game that I'm not just fodder. I'm not good enough to dive in to 2v6 odds and expect to survive, but if the mix is balanced enought that I can twist and roll for a while, I'm all for it.

Let me give an example. This am I upped to defend alone, and took on a trio of lancs. After all three died, the pilot came back in a spit to pay me back We had a nice fight, but then I lost track for a second, he dropped on my 6, and I died.

"Fun!" I thought. "Again?" I asked on channel 200, and upped from the base -- only to get vulched. I got steamed before I realized this guy was thinking capture, and in that midset the fight was nice but not the point. I was mad because at that time, the fight was the only thing I cared about.

So who was right? Were either of us threatened by the other?

No way! We both were after fun, even though our immediate objectives were different.

But here's the problem:
Capture minded players (like that guy this am) can have fun in a furball during the process of attacking a base, but

Furballers can't continue their fun when the strat players actually take a base.

Who's threatened by whom? I gotta agree with Ghosth -- the furballers have a problem with strat players, not the other way around.

As an aside -- I'm not talking about the guys who's only goal is to run up points by bombing some undefended target. Hitting targets to directly or indirectly effect a capture -- whether FHs or troops or training facilities -- IS NOT score whoring, and furballers are unnecessarily demeaning to insultingly imply that capturing is score chasing.

[nopoop]

Originally posted by Simaril
I'm not good enough to dive in to 2v6 odds and expect to survive

Either am I.

But diving in and going for it sometimes produces Ya-Ya's that cannot be achieved in any other way.

They don't happen often. But when they do ??  They are incomparable to ANYTHING ELSE in what this game has to offer.

Those sorties are burned into the brain.

That's why I will always fly on the edge.

To do differently would eliminate for me "that" possible outcome..

Ultimate ya-ya's aren't made playing it safe.

They make my mind.

[streetstang]

Well said nopoop!!!!!

[Drunky]

Why do strat players seem so threatened by furballers?

It all comes down to pee-pee size.  Those with little, want more.  Those with more, want to thump theirs on the foreheads of the others.

[detch01]

Originally posted by Stang
YThe point is, and maybe I should have elaborated on this more clearly, is why the vocal minority of guys who like to fight (not necessarily furball, but simply fight) are in the minority and are constantly demonized by the hordes of timid milkrunning strat potatos who wouldn't know what to do if they were given someone's 6.

Actually I see almost none of what you're claiming here on the bbs or in the game, so who's threatened by who here?

 Since the milkrunning strat potato is the majority now, and is frankly killing gameplay on all levels, why are more people not waking up to the fact that what they do is timid, lame, no fun, skilless, unimaginative and simply stupid.  [/B]

This I suppose is how the furballers make friends and influence people? Kinda sounds to me like your ticked because we're ruining your game of ruining our game.  See, here's the trick: if the only way to play the game was to play the airborne variety of doom then the number of people you'd have to play with would plummet. HTC would run out of money and you'd run out of game. Now, also consider this: you can furball to your hearts content if you've got your brain switched on and an eye on what's happening on the map.  All you gotta do is pick a place the strat guys are having a problem, get in and kick some bad guy butt. Then look for the next place you can be a hero - see everyone wins that way.  Now if you can't understand that then maybe you should wait until your little older to play the game. k?

Nopoop. You're right. All of the most memorable sorties (the kind that leave your hands shaking afterward from the adrenaline rush) I've had in AW and AH were fighter sorties.  Sometimes it's been pure furball types of sorties, others have been in support of someone else's strat mission.
asw

[KurtVW]

Originally posted by Stang
the hordes of timid milkrunning strat potatos who wouldn't know what to do if they were given someone's 6.  Since the milkrunning strat potato is the majority now, and is frankly killing gameplay on all levels, why are more people not waking up to the fact that what they do is timid, lame, no fun, skilless, unimaginative and simply stupid.

Are you too freakin stupid to see that the only reason its a milk run is because you are too freakin stupid to come shoot us down?

Does this completely escape your mental capacity?

THERE IS NO MILK RUN UNLESS YOU PROVIDE IT.

Why are we expected to defend ourselves in the bulletin boards if you can't be expected to defend yourself in the game?

Can you spell Bulletin Board?  Could you spell it before you saw me do it?

Shut up, go away.