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Offline mosgood

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« on: December 08, 2004, 08:16:08 AM »
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041208/ap_on_re_mi_ea/rumsfeld


How can this man be so damn arrogant when facing these guys?


I can understand how the military typically hates democrate administrations, but they can't be happy with this pudknocker at all.

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 10:02:20 AM »
Rumsfield is incompetent plain and simple..  Any ******* that travels by helicopter / c130 around Iraq and then tells soldiers on the ground to suck it up with their un armored humvees is rather pathetic..  Good thing im not over there becuase that would have been my rebuttal to his halfwitted comment... (most likely doing toilet duty thereafter but it would be worth it..)




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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 10:16:49 AM »
What are those G.I Joes complaining? Nobody forced them to join the Army; they should be proud to be accepted to serve their Glorious Leader and conquer countries far away for WMDs which were never found... :)

Anyways IIRC mission was already accomplished and war in Iraq is over; why need any APCs anymore?

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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2004, 10:27:10 AM »
Anyways eastern Europe with new NATO countries is FULL of older Russian APCs like BTRs and BMPs... I'm sure they would gladly lease few hundred of them to the Iraq.
It's all about if Rumsfield is really standing behind his troops or not.

Edit: Here's couple BMPs for starter... Shouldn't be a problem to fix the gun.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2004, 10:30:20 AM by Staga »

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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2004, 10:32:28 AM »
I dunno.....being ex military myself I have seen first hand the short supply of all types of materials, it's a fact of life in the military and ya do what ya can to make up for it IE searching landfills for armor. It's nothing new really, yes it's sad that our soldiers must resort to such means in an attempt to protect themselves. No matter what administration is in charge thats almost always the way of life for our military. I certainly wouldn't blame any one individual no matter his/her competency level it's the gov't as a whole that is responsible.

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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2004, 10:36:17 AM »
But you have to admit Rumsfeld outta touch with on duty soldiers so say something like that...Bad day at the orifice I guess.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2004, 02:27:59 PM »
Bunch of whiners...:rolleyes:

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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2004, 02:55:04 PM »
There is a crapload of M-113A3s "tracks" sitting stateside in reserve. The A3 is tha Israeli-influenced upgrade with HEAT-protecting spall liners, turbo diesel engine (with sensitive brakes and mickey mouse steering wheel too) external fuel tanks and the ability to add bolt on armor.

However, instead of sending those as an immediate stopgap the effort is on boosting the existing ($$$) contracts for NEW armored HUMVEES and Stryker AFVs that arrive at a trickle. There also seems to be some serious ammo shortages as well with some units. Bunch of crap.

Check out http://www.hackworth.com

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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2004, 03:10:43 PM »
I aggree. Send over 113s
or use this

rp-31, in use with 82nd in Iraq

or this.


cougar,40 of them bought for the marines..

or buy some F22s.

Each f22 is worth 400-800 cougars.

Each Cougar would see service imediatly and save american lives and maybe even start to force the insurgents to consider other tactics.
Each F22 will just eat up maintenance dollars polishing up its stealth paint.

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2004, 03:34:38 PM »
In all Military Conflict, there is always a lack of something or other.

It reminds of pictures of World War Two AFV's, Both Allied and Axis Tankers improvised with what little they had. When the Germans realized there Panzer IV and Sturmgeschutz were being penetrated very easily, they developed a new model/s with skirts. When the armored skirt was compromised, It was welded with whatever the tankers could find.

In the Bocage, Allied Shermans couldn't break through the Hedgerows, So they welded scrap metal to build a plow like device to break through them.

Like I said, Both sides were forced to improvise, Tank Treads from destroyed tanks were strapped to vulnerable areas of Tanks. To add a little extra armor.

Its how Military Technology progresses, I'm sure the problem will be alievated (sp), wether it be through Yankee Inginiuity or newer models of AFV's.

I saw the clip of Rummy talking to the troops, If you happen to see the clip of the soldier asking why they had to rummage through scrap, look at all his buddies sitting beside him, they look astonished as to why he asked it. The worst part about of it is the run around answer Rummy gave.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2004, 03:39:56 PM »
I for one am vary glad he is staying as he knows his biz, not to mention he makes every liberals skin crawl
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2004, 03:58:35 PM »
I think he makes a lot of general officer's skin crawl too

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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2004, 04:00:28 PM »
BTW Mosgoo..when ya gonna be back?

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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2004, 04:08:16 PM »
I loved Rummy's comeback, which is soooo historically true...

"We go to war with the Army we have, not the Army we wish we had..."

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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2004, 04:14:00 PM »
I think old Rumy Is feeling the effects of old age.