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Offline wipass

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« Reply #45 on: December 10, 2004, 03:39:14 AM »
ghi,

I find that if I am at 7 k in a 51D, the LA7 isn't quicker, 7 k is the cut off point I believe

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« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2004, 04:44:36 AM »
Never enjoyed the D model  anywhere near as much as the B, much better ride  imho. Plus it would eat LA7's two at a time quite easily.

Riding the B Pony the only other plane I was concerned about and consider the main threat would be a Yak. Any of the so called top 5 were easy meat perk or none perk rides.




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« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2004, 08:17:12 AM »
Another fuel tip,

use the throttle and prop pitch to save fuel.  When cruising, hunting low dots, or vulching, throttle back to normal power.  The settings are 46" Hg, 2700 rpm and the fuel rate is almost cut in half from military power.   The E6B information is useful here.


Regards,

Malta

p.s.  yep, internal fuselage fuel is 'Aux"... that's what I meant.
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« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2004, 09:40:06 AM »
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ghi,

I find that if I am at 7 k in a 51D, the LA7 isn't quicker, 7 k is the cut off point I believe

wipass

 
 Yes, and  in last 2-3 tours something was changed in LA7 performances without notice,
  La7 is the plane i know better, i was always a LA7dweeb, but now if i climb 7-8k and dive 1-2k to accelerate doesn't run over 380-390mph with wep on
  i can't catch D9s, P51s, 109s
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Offline AKFokerFoder+

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« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2004, 10:58:15 AM »
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Tour 58 I killed Pony Ds at over a 4-1 ratio
a little over 3-1 in tour 57


In tour 58 I was 9 and 0
In tour 57 I was 12 and 0

Ponys are not hard to kill, they are just a great plane :)

It is not the plane that counts so much in the MA than how you fly it :)
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« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2004, 01:39:31 PM »
The best thing a Pony pilot can do is park it right in front of my 20mm cannons.  Your cooperation is much appreciated.  
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« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2004, 02:37:18 PM »
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... with the way I have ine trimmed, I actually feel like I can regain E faster when I nose down because I am not fighting the CT ( does this make sense to anyone? ) ...

Yes, it makes sense to me. With ct on, and the fact that  the faster you go the more lift the wings generate, ct doesn't counteract it fast enough, thus you're always pushing on the stick. But if you manually trim to a level flight or even over trim it so you have to apply a little back pressure till speed is built up, I find that to be preferrable. Also, a little aileron trim. I'm constantly workin the trim keys.

Bud Anderson, in his autobio, said in combat he was constantly busy workin the trim wheels. It be came automatic, so he was doin it without even realizing it most times.
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« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2004, 02:41:43 PM »
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ok,  hiding your E state is a way to try and make the enemy think you are slower ......I am just your average flyer here, but I encourage all to practice and push your plane to the breaking point / edge of the flight envelope from high speed to no speed! hope I explained my thoughts to you good enough :-)

TC, thanks for the tips. Gives me something else to work on.:aok  I'm planning on activating my account th latter part of the month. When I do I'd like to spend most of my time in the DA, honing my skills. From all I read in here, that and the CT are the places to be anyway, for max enjoyment. I look forward to lessons from all of you:aok
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« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2004, 05:07:47 PM »
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I have no idea how to fly the P-51D


You ain't never lied! :D
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« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2004, 05:14:52 PM »
P 51 rockets are great for vulching =)



Hey MT, hows that airfeild of yours coming?
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« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2005, 12:58:21 PM »
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a tip to practice : learn to hide your stored "E" and  using the No G load climb "zoom climb" , reversing direction 180 degrees in a dogfight maintaining 150 to 200 IAS and doing it so fast the guy thinks your cheating! ( a  thought of Fencer of old comes to mind )
 


What I would give to be that good again..  Ignore the Rook 51B/D that is smoking, twisting and looking lost, that's just a Mustang pilot trying to relearn.

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« Reply #56 on: September 15, 2005, 10:16:54 PM »
Dredlock I'll take ya up on that 190 vs. D Mustang fight. Should be fun like they always are.

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Offline Stegahorse

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« Reply #57 on: September 16, 2005, 02:24:34 AM »
51 B or D is a great escape plane. Fly it that way, always leave yourself a way out and you'll enjoy the 51. (rule #1)
Be patient! Its greatest strength is its speed. A Spit can out corner you but most Spit pilots will just try to turnfight. The 51 can turn at very high speeds frustrating the Spit pilot to no end.
About the only thing that can accelerate faster in a dive is a Thuderbolt, if the P-47 has enough altitude. 38 pilots are cocky and think they can fight uphill. While the 38 can hang on its props, the 51 retains more maneuverability at slow speeds.
Fw 190 burns massive amounts of Energy in turns, get him to make a tight turn or two before getting serious about attacking him.
Somebody told the 109 pilots that they can kill a 51 by "tearing up the sky". Let them, they run out of E with all that wild turning. Then jump them as they try to get away.
Strictly Boom and Zoom the Japanese planes.  Though they turn great, they are under powered.  And like the 109, they trend toward compessability around 400 knots IAS.
The Typhoon/Tempest are at thier strongest in a downward fight. Get on top of them and stay there. The second you get lower than them you are toast. They, thankfully, don't climb well.
The same goes for the Blue Planes. F4u and F6f were made to fight the Japanese planes.  At Moderate to high speeds, they will match the 51 move for move.
51 vs 51, the pilot who knows the 51 best will always win. My hat is off to the few that do fly it well.
For me, I feel the 51 gets very sluggish at 15k feet through to over 19k. I like bottom feeding with it. But keep rule #1 in mind.
The way you escape is to look for the enemy to nearly Head On you and begin your extend out at that point. Don't look back and definitely don't turn back. Get the WAY the heck outa Dodge before contemplating any turn back.

Afterall, any good pilot can defeat any other good pilot's mistakes.
I ought to know! I make quite a few!
BTW, When I don't, I'm probably the 51 you're cussing as I gallop away!:aok
Enjoy.
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« Reply #58 on: September 16, 2005, 02:54:12 AM »
Fly it as a fast B&Z with the abbility to outturn most things part from spits and nikis and the like.

Use of combat flaps and 50-65% or so in fuel will make it one hell of a turner.
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« Reply #59 on: September 16, 2005, 03:43:42 AM »
Run and cherry pick.  






Never seen one do anything else.
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