Author Topic: First time marijuana seller gets 55 years (Read 3945 times)

RedTop · « **Reply #30 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:38:48 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
Ok, but that doesn't explain how that one sentence in reference to americans and firearms is ignorant.

Let me guess, you're one of those who think that the 2nd amendment is wrong and that we should have a note from mommy or government saying that it's ok to have a firearm.

And I'm guessing you think people who sell marijuana should go to jail too.

And I'm also guessing that you voted for kerry or bush.

I have firearms in my home, none of them are registered as far as I know. Sometimes I even move them around. Should I go to jail for 55 years?

Or would I need to plant and care for a particular type of plant to warrant that ?

Thank goodness this counry was founded by unregistered gun owning, non marriage license having, irreligious pot smokers and not people like you.

Karaya has a point. A very good point.

If I read it right Karaya agrees with the punishment.

People who sell marajauna are criminals. No gray area here.

People who have guns on their person are supposed to have a permit. Doubt that guy did.

People who carry a firearm during a drug sale are subject to harsher penalties according to the law.

Is 55 years for 1st time a bunch? Yes.
Is it warranted by the crime? IMO not when measured against Murder. But I don't think there are as many Murderers as there are Drug dealers. Even the Local Yocal lil Dime bag dealer.

Law is the Law. Break it you get in trouble.

At least thats what I take from Karaya's comments.

Tough Laws if you break em. NOTHING if you don't.

Suave · « **Reply #31 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:39:17 PM »

If the laws are wrong, the moral thing to do is to change them. Not abide by them blindly.

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"Oh he broke an unconstitutional law and now he's going to prison for life, but whaddya gonna do."

NUKE · « **Reply #32 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:44:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
If the laws are wrong, the moral thing to do is to change them. Not abide by them blindly.

go ahead and change the law then. Why are you wasting your time here?

Abide by them blindly? lol.

The law is probably the result of liberal gun grabbers anyway. I thought being tough on gun crime was good.

TweetyBird · « **Reply #33 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:48:31 PM »

There are three branches of goverment in the United States. When one tries to neuter another, the idealogy fails. We hear about legislative judges, but we don't hear much about Congress passing laws that take away judicial powers (i.e., mandatory sentencing). Mandatory sentencing is a knee jerk reaction plain and simple. It weakens the Uited States, but it gives victims a false sense of progress. Mandatory sentencing seldom works as designed. But as a rule we're a stupid people and hardly notice.
But then we just yell louder.

NUKE · « **Reply #34 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:50:09 PM »

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Originally posted by TweetyBird
But as a rule we're a stupid people and hardly notice.
But then we just yell louder.

You don't have to be so hard on liberals....they are not all stupid people.

Martlet · « **Reply #35 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:52:47 PM »

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Originally posted by TweetyBird
There are three branches of goverment in the United States. When one tries to neuter another, the idealogy fails. We hear about legislative judges, but we don't hear much about Congress passing laws that take away judicial powers (i.e., mandatory sentencing). Mandatory sentencing is a knee jerk reaction plain and simple. It weakens the Uited States, but it gives victims a false sense of progress. Mandatory sentencing seldom works as designed. But as a rule we're a stupid people and hardly notice.
But then we just yell louder.

It worked in this case. There's 55 years I don't have to worry about that guy carrying a gun and selling dope.

Suave · « **Reply #36 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:52:56 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
go ahead and change the law then. Why are you wasting your time here?

Abide by them blindly? lol.

The law is probably the result of liberal gun grabbers anyway. I thought being tough on gun crime was good.

So you're saying you disagree with the law, and it's probably the other guys fault we have such a stupid law. But the suggestion that it should be changed makes you lol.

RedTop · « **Reply #37 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:54:13 PM »

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Originally posted by TweetyBird
And Marlet, if you can walk through the pearly gates, all I can say is, I don't wanna go. You seem to be a very miserable judgemental soul. I could think of no worse of hell than spending eternity with such misery.

May Jesus Christ impale you with such judgement.

Hmmmm......Ive read 2 posts of yours in this thread , and in my opinion......as they say here...........

Pot meet Kettle

TweetyBird · « **Reply #38 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:54:28 PM »

Well if only liberals are taking math and science tests, I guess you could be right. But if the little Republican spawn is taking them, we're all stupid.

NUKE · « **Reply #39 on:** December 10, 2004, 09:58:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
So you're saying you disagree with the law, and it's probably the other guys fault we have such a stupid law. But the suggestion that it should be changed makes you lol.

Nope.

I'm saying that its the law and I will abide by it. I'm saying that it's funny that anti-gun activists are the ones who create these laws against guns, yet they seem to be the same people that cry when people go to jail.

I love it. Liberals are "compassionate" so they create laws that will end gun crime, then whine when the law is actually enforced.

Poor pothead got busted with an evil gun. I'm glad he's going to jail. We need tougher gun laws.

NUKE · « **Reply #40 on:** December 10, 2004, 10:02:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Suave
If the laws are wrong, the moral thing to do is to change them. Not abide by them blindly.

Typical of a person who thinks they are above the law just because they don't like it.

That reminds me of...... liberals.

You are saying you will not abide by laws you don't personally agree with? Classic.

I demand a recount!

TweetyBird · « **Reply #41 on:** December 10, 2004, 10:02:12 PM »

>>It worked in this case. There's 55 years I don't have to worry about that guy carrying a gun and selling dope.<<

Yea, and in 4 posts from now you'll be *****ing about your taxes and feeding this guy for 55 years.

We have a genetic defect somewhere.

Martlet · « **Reply #42 on:** December 10, 2004, 10:08:04 PM »

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>>It worked in this case. There's 55 years I don't have to worry about that guy carrying a gun and selling dope.<<

Yea, and in 4 posts from now you'll be *****ing about your taxes and feeding this guy for 55 years.

We have a genetic defect somewhere.

Yep, I will. It's better than having him on the street, though. Ideally, he should be on a chain gang, working in the south west. They could do the jobs the crimaliens are doing now, thus eliminating 2 problems.

TweetyBird · « **Reply #43 on:** December 10, 2004, 10:14:08 PM »

>> Ideally, he should be on a chain gang, working in the south west. <<

Think meager thoughts and have a meager existence. IDEALLY, he shouldn't have been addicted to drugs, and IDEALLY, there should be no profit in drugs.

RedTop · « **Reply #44 on:** December 10, 2004, 10:14:15 PM »

Just leagalize the crap......

Then we can all have 7-11's on one corner and Dope-n-Munchies on the other.

Heak leagalize all the drugs. Then maybe the IDIOTS will OD faster and save us all the time and money we invest on the Drug War and Prisons.

That make ya Happy Tweety and Suave?