First time marijuana seller gets 55 years

[TweetyBird]

BTW, Martlet, I apologize for my earlier remarks to you. That was out of line.

[Yeager]

I'm thinking about criminal arguments.

Take for example someone who loads a 2 1/2 ton automobile with a drunk driver. He thinks, heck I'm just going home and don't drive fast. I'm not going to kill anyone, I just don't feel like walking or waiting for a cab.
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you know what tweed, your a typical liberal, always looking for an excuse.  Your fortunate people who believe in the theory "Dont tread on me" dont populate the mainstream anymore or you would be plowed over like soft dirt on the first day of spring....oh how I long for the days of old....

[TweetyBird]

Yeager, I'm not a liberal. I not a neocon either. I'm a fiscal  conservative libertarian devil's advocate.

And don't be sure about plowing over me.
I have a 45 gov, with a black talon up front and hardballs behind that will solve any problem 75 feet from me.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Hawklore
Legalize it, control it, distribute it in a controlled eviroment...

No need for a crime...

Exactly why it wont be legalised.

Cant control it.
No Way the big corperations can make money off of it When your average neighborhood grower can grow stuff  in his closet at 5 times the quality they can

[Airhead]

Originally posted by RedTop
But without that "Dr. Note" is it still leagle to have 25 plants or 2 pounds? What is the limits? Can ya have a gun when your smoking a joint?

No, but generally condoned and not raided. They had cases this year where they busted 100 plant gardens and, because the cultivator had a card, they only pulled 75 plants- and our County DA won't prosicute for 75 plants.

What the Dr's note gets you is a card issued by Mendocino County. It permits you to cultivate 25 plants, 50 if you're in a Marijuana Compassionate Use Club.

As far as CWPs go, they're easier to get here than anyplace in California- it takes a weekend course and an excuse as vague as "self protection."

[Flit]

Originally posted by TweetyBird
Bush broke the law and he's president (our first President with a criminal record). Go figure.

Taking politics out of it, do you think we have an aristocracy problem (i.e., its not what you know but WHO you know)?

 And Kerry is a traitor who according to the constitution should'nt even be holding public office
 get off the high (no pun intended) horse tweety
 Ask TK

[1Klink]

Lesson here,


Don,t get caught sellin drugs in Utah.

A dude i know got caught with Meth,Mary-Jane,and some nose candy,and he had a shotgun in his trunk,while bein stopped for DUI investigation.

Don,t get caught with drugs in Utah.

That same Dude got 72 years Mandatory.

[mora]

It would be easier for you to just execute all criminals.

In here an average time to sit for a "life" sentence is 12 years. Your sentences are equally ridiculous.

[lazs2]

suave... I have been accused of having liberal ideas before.  

The whole point is that we treat some crimes as worse than others... we add penalties based on severity.   I think everyone feels that violent criminals should be punished more than non violent ones and that those using a weapon in crime need to be made examples of.

I don't think that commiting crimes with a gun strapped on your ankle is very smart.   I don't agree that selling pot in that amount should be a felony but... not my call.  

Again... I don't think the gun penalties should be added to any crime where the gun was not actually used in the crime.   That is wrong.   Adding penalties to gun crime is right if it is not done as badly as this appears to be.

There is a huge difference for instance in having a rifle rack in your truck and getting a fellony drunk driving (injuring someone) and doing the same thing but taking out the rifle and holding off the police when they get there.

It should be up to the discretion of the prosecutor and judge to decide if a gun crime has been committed maybe.

lazs

[GRUNHERZ]

Thank goodness, more guns off the street!

He should have gotten a 100 years for carrying those dangerus small cheap concealable weapons, not to mention possising the arsenal at his hom, err I mean compound...

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by RedTop
Karaya has a point. A very good point.

If I read it right Karaya agrees with the punishment.

People who sell marajauna are criminals. No gray area here.

People who have guns on their person are supposed to have a permit. Doubt that guy did.

People who carry a firearm during a drug sale are subject to harsher penalties according to the law.

Is 55 years for 1st time a bunch? Yes.
Is it warranted by the crime? IMO not when measured against Murder. But I don't think there are as many Murderers as there are Drug dealers. Even the Local Yocal lil Dime bag dealer.

Law is the Law. Break it you get in trouble.

At least thats what I take from Karaya's comments.

Tough Laws if you break em. NOTHING if you don't.

You read my post right.

Karaya

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Airhead
Mendocino County, California. Cultivation of 25 plants is legal, posession of 2 pounds is legal, with a Dr.'s note and a resigstration card from the County.

We're allowed to own dildos, too.

This explains every post.  Say no more.  

Karaya

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Airhead
Well, I don't live in some back asswards state like Utah or Texas Drunky, so I'm beyond the reach of your frontier justice. In fact where I live what he did wouldn't even get a parking ticket....and that's if we'd tolorate undercover cops busting people from dime bags, which we don't. We send them after crank labs.

Rot in Texas, Rot in Texas... I smoke pot through my dildo. In Texas that'd be double life.

Uh, I have a buddy who is CHP.  The moron sold to an undercover officer, who probably DID NOT have a CCW for an ankle holster with a revolver (prolly .38).   You are truly a tool, if you think the "Non-Parking Ticket California Officer" would NOT arrest.   You're off your rocker man.   Just set the crack pipe down and step backwards.  My buddy said he'd be looking at 5 years MINIMUM.  

You are confusing "Medicinal Use" with "Drug Trafficing" or "Posession of Illegal Substance with the Intent to Distribute".  I

Again, I OBEY the laws of the land.  

Karaya

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Airhead
Well, I don't live in some back asswards state like Utah or Texas Drunky, so I'm beyond the reach of your frontier justice. In fact where I live what he did wouldn't even get a parking ticket....and that's if we'd tolorate undercover cops busting people from dime bags, which we don't. We send them after crank labs.

Rot in Texas, Rot in Texas... I smoke pot through my dildo. In Texas that'd be double life.

California should be cede from the Union, if you put it that way.  I've spent a couple of weeks in Texas back in 1990.   California is about as *** backward as you can get.   You just don't know when to put the shovel down.   Keep digging, and take the dildo out of your ***.

Karay

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Thank goodness, more guns off the street!

He should have gotten a 100 years for carrying those dangerus small cheap concealable weapons, not to mention possising the arsenal at his hom, err I mean compound...

You don't know what he "had at home".  Say a Sawed off shotgun?  A Fully-automatic weapon?  More weapons without permits?  Bottom line, when you are a FELON, you never LEGALLY FIRE, POSSESS, or PURCHASE a Handgun (not sure on AR's and such).

 I agree with the punishment.  ALOT hasn't been said, but I think this idiot deserved what he got.  

Keep the sarcasm up.  Turn a blind eye to stupidity and allow law breakers.   Sorry, I refuse too.

Karaya