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[Wolfala]

I havn't been able to find many combat reports on how it performed in late 45 and Korea. My only first hand account is Dukemskt who flew them back in the early 60's and said it climbed like an angel that misses heaven compared to his A26K.

WW, with your encyclopedic knowlege of Grumman and the 2800 series birds, could you shed some light on this?

Wolfala

[Rasker]

It never saw combat in WW2, was used as a night intruder in Korea IIRC.

[Krusty]

While it never saw COMBAT in WW2, it was deployed just at the end of the war, thus allowing the possibility that HT will put it in some day as a perk plane (similar to Ta152).

[Crumpp]

Ta 152 saw combat.

Crumpp

[Leatherneck]

Believe that Grumman F8F Bearcat was really close to see combat before War ended and I really don't think that F7F was close to see action.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Leatherneck
Believe that Grumman F8F Bearcat was really close to see combat before War ended and I really don't think that F7F was close to see action.

The F7F was deployed and flying in theater before VJ day. They just didn't go operational in time. F8Fs were inroute on carriers, and they were operational, but still several days from the western Pacific.

My regards,

Widewing

[Crumpp]

The F7F was deployed and flying in theater before VJ day. They just didn't go operational in time. F8Fs were inroute on carriers, and they were operational, but still several days from the western Pacific.

So how many Japs did they shoot down?

Crumpp

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Wolfala
I havn't been able to find many combat reports on how it performed in late 45 and Korea. My only first hand account is Dukemskt who flew them back in the early 60's and said it climbed like an angel that misses heaven compared to his A26K.

WW, with your encyclopedic knowlege of Grumman and the 2800 series birds, could you shed some light on this?

Wolfala

Two versions of the F7F were deployed to fight over Korea. Of these, the primary was the F7F-3N night fighter (the other being the F7F-3P recce model). They were used to intercept night raiders and did some pretty good work. They also performed escort duty for B-29 night bombing missions over North Korea (VMF-513). On occasion, they were pressed into ground attack service too. Tigercat crews loved their planes. Eventually, all were replaced by the jet powered Douglas F3D Skynight, because while the Tigercats could intercept and kill Lavochkins and Yaks, it wasn't fast enough to intercept MiGs. In general though, the F7Fs did a better job than the USAF's dedicated night fighter, the F-94. By the way, not one B-29 was lost to enemy aircraft when being escorted by the F3D (during night-time missions), and several MiGs were splashed.

There's not a lot written on the F7F in Korea, but VMF-513's combat reports are available on CD-ROM.

My regards,

Widewing

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Crumpp
So how many Japs did they shoot down?

Crumpp

Didn't you notice that I said they weren't operational by VJ day? Loaded question, of course you noticed, you just elected to ignore that in order to push your agenda. If you have nothing to contribute in this thread, just go away.

Widewing

[Crumpp]

Didn't you notice that I said they weren't operational by VJ day? Loaded question, of course you noticed, you just elected to ignore that in order to push your agenda. If you have nothing to contribute in this thread, just go away.

No Widewing.  Just making sure there is a clear highlight to your agenda.  Your the one who piped in the thread saying "They were enroute to being operational".  I piped in to add to what Krusty posted and to correct the mistake that the F8F or F7F would be "like the Ta-152".  The Ta-152 saw combat and scored a number of kills.  Niether the F7F or the F8F fired a shot or even saw enemy aircraft during the war.  Big Difference and a whole new line HTC would be crossing.

Crumpp

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by Krusty
While it never saw COMBAT in WW2, it was deployed just at the end of the war, thus allowing the possibility that HT will put it in some day as a perk plane (similar to Ta152).

Widewing,

how Crumpp can read this as the Ta152H not seeing combat can only be put down to English not being his primary language.

[Shane]

what i want to know is how many japanese the ta-152 shot down?

[Crumpp]

how Crumpp can read this as the Ta152H not seeing combat can only be put down to English not being his primary language.

Milo.

I was not claiming Krusty did not realize the Ta-152 had not seen combat.

There is a fundamental difference between an aircraft which saw combat and one that was too late to see any or never made it to the front.  If HTC starts modeling planes that did not participate in WWII then were is the line?  
We going to model Do-335's and He-112's?  At what point does a WWII sim cease to be a WWII sim?

Crumpp

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by Crumpp
Milo.

I was not claiming Krusty did not realize the Ta-152 had not seen combat.

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We going to model Do-335's and He-112's?  At what point does a WWII sim cease to be a WWII sim?

Crumpp

Sure, what ever Crumpp.

Better tell the Hungarians and Romanians that their He112s were just in their dreams.

[Crumpp]

Better tell the Hungarians and Romanians that their He112s were just in their dreams.

Interesting.  Did not know they had 54!  Well BRING THE HE-112 to AH.  It has more business in the game than the F8F or F7F!

Crumpp