Congrats, United States of Europe!

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Saintaw
DMF, if you have some spare time to read it all, you can always look for the line where the EU consitution states the aim is to build a "unique country". I found no such reference.

Right, but that's the problem.  Without the political power to authoritatively allocate its enormous wealth, the EU is not the same kind of entity as the United States.  That may be a good thing, and that may be by design so as to eliminate any tendency toward imperialism or whatnot, but the fact remains that without a coherent structure for unifying the political, economic, and military axes, the EU doesn't really create or threaten to create a bipolar world.  Not yet anyway.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Steve]

I find it ironic that certain americans are so keen to remind the rest of the world about the sacrifices of their previous generations and are yet equally as eager to denigrate the european project which was founded on the ashes of the conflict that they so frequently allude to. A project that as much now as in its inception is intended to bring reconciliation instead of strife to the continent and eliminate the militarism to which so many americans, as we are so frequently reminded, were sacrificed

Pretty words, nice rhetoric.

I believe wipass said it succinctly:

Simple fact is that Germany and France have their own interests at heart, not a United Europe. Germany and France have consistently broken budget agreements and have not been punished and nor they will be.

Hard not to see that.  From our point of view, neither France nor Germany can be trusted to be honest or to act w/ integrity so it is impossible for us to view the EU w/ anything but skepticism at best.

I'd be thrilled for the populace of the EU if it raised their standard of living, I'd say Bully for them!

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Wilfrid
Nilsen, every time you quote Yeager you make his inane drivel visible for those of us who put him on 'ignore' long ago.

Please desist, sir!

As i dont want to offend anyone, I will honor your request sir

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Steve
Pretty words, nice rhetoric.

I believe wipass said it succinctly:


 

Hard not to see that.  From our point of view, neither France nor Germany can be trusted to be honest or to act w/ integrity so it is impossible for us to view the EU w/ anything but skepticism at best.

I'd be thrilled for the populace of the EU if it raised their standard of living, I'd say Bully for them!

Oh here we go again. The same old bull***** dittohead argument: France and Germany and the rest of what the neocons term "old" europe always act out out venal self-interest whereas the the gallant US of A always has the best interests of the planet at heart and always acts out of the purest of motives.

Too funny.

You should welcome the prospect of a strong EU. In 50 years time you'll need all the friends you can get just to contain the infuence of China.

[Toad]

Nah, we sent Secret Agent Walmart to takeover China. He's actually ahead of schedule, so no problem there.