Evading someone who is in tight on your 6

[Puff]

I've gotten pretty good at evasion when someone is between 800 and 1k off my 6.  But I'm finding it very difficult to defend against someone when they are in that 200 to 400 window.  I fly the 190 D9 more than anything and any of us that fly that aircraft know that it dosen't just turn on a dime.  When something like a LALA or a diving spit with E on me.

Any help is appreciated.

[TalonX]

Don't let them get there in a D9!

I am only half joking......   you should be using that plane's speed and climb advantage, not turning and burning, nor letting someone get that close.

Frankly, your options are limited...    The one thing most B&Zers have on their side is role rate.  I often execute a 270 degree roll and pull hard....a slower turner will lag your turn.  I straighten out quickly, since the Dora doesn't lose much e in a fast, short pull up, and many others do.    Start establishing your gap and get out of dodge.

The other effective roll evasive is the 90 one way, 180 back the other and PULL HARD.    Once again, you can establish a gap and exploit to evade.

Go back to the first line....don't let them that close on your 6!!!!

[Sikboy]

If you're just trying to live for a few more seconds, to complete your rossary or whatever, sideslipping works well for spoiling aim. But you're still probably going to die. You might be able to break opposite of them when the try to correct their aim, and then get into a scissor fight, but once they are that close on me, I'm pretty much ****ed.

If the enemy has major speed (and the rate of closure is pretty fast) you can usually force an overshoot with something as simple as a barrell roll.

-Sik

[Furball]

STIR YOUR STICK AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!

or just roll indefinately, only evasive most run-90 people know...

[TalonX]

Don't stick stir.  He is being *sarcastic*.

Nothing makes you look more incompetent than stick stirring...  God I hate it.  

I don't even know how someone could do it and think they were flying.

[Howitzer]

Well, against the spit is pretty rough, if you are in a 190, your best bet against the spit is to keep fast and slash him to death, but if he's 400 off your 6 (and this goes for both planes) what you can do better than both of them is scissor.  What I would do is break down and to the left, as they start to turn to follow make a turn to the right and chop your throttle.  As they follow you to the right, turn back into them to the left.  The idea is that they will be going much faster than you, overshoot, and you get position on their 6.  Bad thing about this maneuver is that you will cross their gunsights a few times.  And if either of them is good in a lag pursuit, you are screwed =)

[Urchin]

If you let a Spit or La7 get 400 yards off your 6, you are basically dead.  

You could resort to the JB evasive, which is flopping around while headed to the closest ack (even if it is 50 miles away), but that won't work real well against a plane with Hizookas, or a plane with more than 1 normal 20mm.  

If you have a little bit of alt, dive.  They'll think you are trying to run, so chop throttle and cross your controls (full rudder one way, ailerons the other to keep the plane 'straight', you'll fly crooked), roll, or something to bleed off speed.  Once you get them right off your 6, firewall the throttle and run.

Doesn't work so well if you get caught slow on the deck though.  

Even then unless they are marginally faster and close you have some options.. it is relatively easy to force and overshoot and bleed their speed down to where you can safely run away if they start much faster than you, it is near impossible to do it if they are only a little faster to begin with.

[Heretik]

when I have a con that close on my 6, I start thinking about what plane I'm going to fly on my next run.

[mechanic]

cut the throttle, lower all flaps, drop the gear if needed and barrel roll or scissor untill they overshoot.

most people in the MA fly at FFT (full friken throttle) and you have more than a good chance of making them overshoot. this tactic relies mainly on them missing the easy kill you offer by slowing down.

it works, somtimes.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Heretik
when I have a con that close on my 6, I start thinking about what plane I'm going to fly on my next run.

Great quote! lmao

[rpm]

Originally posted by TalonX
Don't stick stir.  He is being *sarcastic*.

Nothing makes you look more incompetent than stick stirring...  God I hate it.  

I don't even know how someone could do it and think they were flying.

To the majority of players, a barrel roll with rudder added is considered stick stirring. You must fly straight and level whenever any enemy is trying to shoot you or you are stick stirring.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by rpm
To the majority of players, a barrel roll with rudder added is considered stick stirring. You must fly straight and level whenever any enemy is trying to shoot you or you are stick stirring.

Really?  I always thought stick stirring was when you make your plane spasm like a doped up raver?

[dedalos]

Use your tail guns

[-MZ-]

The D9 has a very violent spin but easy recovery, so if you get slow enough you can do the spin-dweeb evade.  This is a temporary solution though.

[Redd]

Originally posted by Puff
I've gotten pretty good at evasion when someone is between 800 and 1k off my 6.  But I'm finding it very difficult to defend against someone when they are in that 200 to 400 window.  I fly the 190 D9 more than anything and any of us that fly that aircraft know that it dosen't just turn on a dime.  When something like a LALA or a diving spit with E on me.

Any help is appreciated.

Your probably gonna die so try a big flat or rolling scissors.

You've got firepower so 1 crossing snapshot is all you need.