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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2004, 03:06:02 PM »
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cut the throttle, lower all flaps, drop the gear if needed and barrel roll or scissor untill they overshoot.


Exactly what I was going to say! NEVER give up. If they're 400-200 on your tail you're not the hunted. You just need to get them in front of you. Chop throttle to nil (watch the roll trim when you do) full rudder and a barrel roll if you can. Gear and/or flaps I do without. When I try forcing an overshoot like that I find it takes too long to drop and then pull up these items, and that likely as not I'm decelerating just as well without them.

I don't fly a D9 much but it works wonders in an A8

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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2004, 04:06:07 PM »
Depending if you have the speed (under 250mph in a dora say your last rights)  you can do a low g barrel roll as your opener to a rolling scissors..  The reason for the barrel roll is to determine if the bad guy on six is going passive or aggressive on his gun solution / saddle and not to make a easy target for a snapshot...

While doing the barrel roll it should be under 4gs thruout and while doing such see if the bad guy (rear view) is following your barrel or sitting back there waiting for you to roll your self to death...   If he follows the barrel add more g and go into a 3 scissor breakaway.. If closure rate is fast hell blow by...  (becuase the 190 can bleed e at high G very well beware tiffie and yak in this scenario due to their e bleed..)  If he just sits back there (the more dangerous pilot / more experienced) then you got to work more..  The key is while he's passive you go aggressive with your scissors after the barrel roll but do not reverse one way or the other until he commits for the gun solution in you high g turn... then a standard scissors works well especially with throttle chop and the 190's e bleed at high g.....  now say you get lucky (he shouldn't be at the range in the first place in a dora) and get the over shoot..   watch for them to go nose high and use the vert to reaquire you...  with some anticipation of this sometimes you can force a headon (since your purely defensive its A ok...) and bag the sucka..  but again you work is cut out for you 400 - 600m out..getting progressively harder as speed gets below 250 and easier above 300mph..  experience will help you determine closer rates to improvise on what i discussed above...

hope this helps..


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« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2004, 04:13:24 PM »
You wont be able to, to get some lube and im sure you know what to do from there.;)

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« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2004, 09:41:06 PM »
left turn, right turn, climb, dive, 3/4 rudder etc...
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« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2004, 11:48:39 PM »
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STIR YOUR STICK AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!

or just roll indefinately, only evasive most run-90 people know...



:rofl

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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2004, 07:24:18 AM »
Cant believe why nobody mentioned it..

Why not climb?  300-400,  pull as hard as you can,  pull into a full loop,  right on the top cut throttle,  and he will pass you if he tried to loop with you.
Just one of those skills you forget that you have under your sleeve..
Easy as that ;)

P.S  Opponent skills vary,  so careful.

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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2004, 08:13:45 AM »
Unplug your modem or alt-F4

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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2004, 05:35:04 PM »
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Unplug your modem or alt-F4
:rofl , as of what wildthing said In aceshigh 1 i use to try that but ussally the person would just shoot infront of you while your rising and bam
your done with.

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Re: Re: Evading someone who is in tight on your 6
« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2004, 08:52:35 AM »
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Originally posted by Fariz
Depends what plane is on your 6, what is your and his speed. Also you have to watch his moves if you was fighting him before, against new pilots some things work, against vets others. Actually normally if he is good, you will be dead anyway.



LOL

hallo fariz, nice to see you around :D

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« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2004, 09:09:20 AM »
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:rofl , as of what wildthing said In aceshigh 1 i use to try that but ussally the person would just shoot infront of you while your rising and bam
your done with.
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Unplug your modem or alt-F4


 :eek:   U used to unplug your modem or hit ALT+F4 to evade being killed?!?

funny that you should even admit to cheating on a public forum.  :mad:

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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2004, 09:49:44 AM »
What you need is a magic word.

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« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2004, 10:23:07 AM »
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What you need is a magic word.


like : " Honey ... do you have 5 mins of free time ?"
:D

ups.. it were more less magic sentense

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« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2004, 10:35:12 AM »
no silly... like "Armageddon!"  or some other word to let that special someone who is tight on your 6 know that the funs over.

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« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2004, 12:24:55 PM »
hitting alt-f4 is considered cheating now? lol wtf?

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« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2004, 01:32:34 PM »
Because there is no chute to kill!:mad:
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