UN official slams U.S. tsunami aid as 'stingy'...

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
Per capita is the most appropriate measurement IMHO. It shows how much each person is giving. You may give more as a nation, but when your nation is so much bigger it makes you all cheapskates. Percentage of GDP is also relevant since it given an indication of how much of your total wealth you share with the less fortunate.

The per capita percentage does not include private donations, which alone are massive.

And that's just the tip of the actual cost of the aid we deliver.

[Crumpp]

Per capita is the most appropriate measurement IMHO. It shows how much each person is giving.

In your opinion....

All measuring per capita does is show the US pays less in taxes.  It does not include the percentage of income private individual donate to charity.

We pay less taxes and have more disposable income to donate.  Hence our private contributions are much larger than the Government's official contributions.

Crumpp

[Crumpp]

You add the private contributions to your government contributions ... of course without doing the same for the other countries.

Read the articles.

They all agree.  No other country comes close to the US for private donations.

Crumpp

[NUKE]

Plus add in the costs of per capita on military spending into the equation.

The US rebuilt Europe, and Japan, invested billions to protect Europe from the USSR, bankrolled the IMF.

As a result, countries like Norway can now spend their money pulling oil out of the north sea ( with US help once again) and have people like yourself call the US stingy.

We pay over 50% of  the entire  UN's food aid  budget PLUS give out our own direct food aid in the millions of tons.

We are also most capable of actually delivering the aid due to our military spending.

I refrain from ever bashing another country ( look that up if you want) yet you seem obsessed with criticizing the US......for what reason I have no idea.

I do know that you are wrong in calling the US stingy......and you know it.

[Gixer]

And still the  thread goes on.





...-Gixer

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
Or you buy more expensive cars and houses, and consume more consumer products than all other countries in the world... why, I think we are on to something here. *duh*

Better than being on state paid welfare for at least 10 months.

Are you still sucking up resources and not working? Just curious, because you seem to be the ultimate hypocrite.

You bragged about being out of work, yet buying a new car ( IIRC) and living well.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
Careful Nuke. Prolonged pulling of large numbers out of your bellybutton can be hazardous to your digestion.

Look up the food budget for the UN and who pays it. You don't believe me?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by GScholz
You mean you actually did some research? Post your own sources thank you.

what's the point? You are not interested in finding the truth about US aid. You are happy to just criticize us for being stingy without actually researching anything that might make you look to be wrong on the subject.

Even without researching anything....just knowing basic history, it is highy ignorant to call the US stingy.

[Chortle]

Originally posted by A_Clown
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Ignorance can be very expensive, so FYI, if your ever on a beach, and the WHOLE FREEKING OCEAN receeds out 100ft. or so, GET YER ARSE TO HIGH GROUND, ALL THAT WATER WILL BE BACK REAL SOON   ..............DUH!

I'm so damn logical........

Only if the trough hits first.

[Crumpp]

Of course Crumpp and yourself don't find anything either since all you come up with is conjecture. I don't think you know enough basic history if you come to that conclusion.

what a blatant Lie.  Guess you don't remember this:

Originally posted by Crumpp
http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap&int=50

Nice website but it does not show US official or private donations.  In other words it is just great propaganda.

Now let's look at the actual VALUE of what the United States Government officially gives:

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp?so=d2003#oda

Only in ONE year has ONE country given more.

This does NOT include private US organizations.

Lets look at those, down at the bottom under "notes on private donations":

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs

 

Notice these numbers are in BILLIONS of US dollars.  The benefits of a capitalistic economy and low taxes.
Add these numbers to the unsolicited funds and official funds and the US does provide the majority of western worlds foreign aid.  

Crumpp

It is very easy to see that the United States gives a large chunk of the western worlds foreign aid.  40 percent ould be a conservative figure assuming every nation list private donations at least matched their official contributions.

Crumpp

[spitfiremkv]

Anybody here read Norman Spinrad?
It's scary, what he predicted for the US seems to be coming true...

[lada]

Originally posted by lazs2
he never said America or the United States?

lazs

No he said most ritch countries [note countries and not country]

so all of you are angry because of fata morgana
but most funny is, that other people from other countries didnt start to cry because of that.

[lada]

Originally posted by GScholz

15.79 billion is not 40% of the total 68.47 billion. It is 23%, and the US is still last on the list compared to GDP. That means that both your government and your population are the cheapest on that list. Perhaps compared "in capita" it looks better?

hey man we are not even on that list, im about to put my head into the sand for one night

[lada]

Originally posted by GScholz
The article has been proven a falsification. However he did indeed call western nations stingy in general. All this is of course irrelevant to your position since Mr. Egeland is not a recipient of anyone's foreign aid.

hey GS... its pointless... that crying boy, with thumb in his mouth, probably never ever read Mr. England`s comments and he is too cool to read it, no matter that i posted it in past and pointed out on misinterpretation from some US media.
He will belive in that fata morgana, because he read it on some web page with american flag.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by lada
hey GS... its pointless... that crying boy, with thumb in his mouth, probably never ever read Mr. England`s comments and he is too cool to read it, no matter that i posted it in past and pointed out on misinterpretation from some US media.
He will belive in that fata morgana, because he read it on some web page with american flag.

I assume you are refering to me and my beautiful, handsome and magnetic  boyhood picture?

You reading skills must be close to zero. I have never mentioned  Englands comments, the aricle or Engaland himself. In fact, I read that article on newsmax.com before it was posted here and I saw that he never mentioned the US......because I read the article.

The reason I am here defending the US is because Gsholz is the  here calling the US stingy. That's what you don't get. How can anyone come here and call the US stingy and not be full of crap?

I'll not bash any country here, but I sure will defend against my country being bashed.

Lada, last time you called me on something, you looked pathetic because you never bothered to read what I had said. I guess you don't learn.

I did comment on the article, the part about taxes