Author Topic: The Forming of Something Great.... (Read 10797 times)

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #165 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:20:42 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
Umm Skydance and Cliff, it is usually only the furball guys that will up and defend bases in the face of overwhelming numbers. SO preaching to the furballers about this style of game play is like preaching to the choir about not going to church.

Tool shed killers will not up into overwhelming odds ( see most of shubert's et-al posts. )

AS for the base defence, yes it can be fun, but most of the time it is chasing pork and auger morons around while they dive in from alt in their pee 51s then zoom away, not much fighting there more like target practice. Unless that force comes in with people that want to fight it will soon get as boring as dropping bombs itself.

Didn't mean to downgrade the furballer at all. I would catagorise myself as somewhat of a furballer. I agree with you, base defense is mostly chasing the dive and runners. One thing that really irritates me, and I am not easily irritated, are all the suiciders. I can understand compressing your plane. I've done it a few time in a 38 but I can pull out of most dives in a pony yet I see these guy go nose 1st into the VH, radar, CV. I still think there should be some kind of penalty for suicide attacks. Not sure if the game can differentiate between compression and a deliberate suicide.

My main point was that you will have like 15-20 pilots defending a base but as soon as we get outnumbered half if not more will not come back after getting shot down. The guys who stay are mostly familier call-signs that I've flown defense with in the past.

jamusta · « **Reply #166 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:22:34 PM »

Yeah we want to minimize the restrictions. Let them use their strategy and we will do the same. All we need to know is the area and put some sort of restriction to keep them within a few sectors. That way there is no way to avoid contact. We want this to be a challenge but also be fun for everyone. Lets say we pick an area and they can have the option to attack say 4 bases in that area from any direction or alt.

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #167 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:25:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
OK, let's keep it rolling...

Horde Brawl
Annihilation 2005!!
Grrrr

Shubie, how about moving it forward about an hour and a half (9:30 E). That would hit 6:30 Pacific. 10:00 would be better given commute/home/eat time but that's getting a bit late on the East Coast).

This THURSDAY, of course.

I can see the defense meeting at a remote base field 15 minutes before start time (I’ll find a place and use goto for Charon on the roster) to count heads. We will then move to an appropriate field off in some corner, announce it on 200 and get it on. Joiners are welcome on both sides, of course. The more the merrier. BTW, what sides are we talking here? I don’t care myself since I usually fly for the side with the lowest numbers.

Charon

I'm EST, 9:30-10:00 is good for me. I routinely give up sleep for a good fight.

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #168 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:38:46 PM »

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Originally posted by rshubert
We'll be flying bish, and will let YOU know where we will attack from just prior to launch--or whenever the spies (not you, don't get me wrong...) see the mission posted. Target is our choice, as I see it. Is that agreeable? Your tactics, start base, and numbers are your call, and I DON'T WANT TO KNOW. It will make it more interesting, that way.

~~shubie~~

Well, I'm Bish and have no dsire to change. I'm kinda neutral on this whole issue.

Shubie, I'll join you and fly fighter cover for your horde.

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #169 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:47:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
I don't mind either, and that's fine with me and probably fine with him. Shubie did lay down a challenge, but perhaps it's getting to restriceted and confined in scope. I did think it might make a good event to bring people together and try out the idea.

If you wnat to change the meeting country to Knights that's fine with me. I also don't want anybody to think this is more complex than it is (and certainly not that I am trying to be some "anti-horde" general of some sort). I'm just trying to keep things rolling, because you did come up with a very proactive answer to the issue and I can see it fading away without some initial push. It would be fun to up at least once a week, if not more regularly, and make a good fight if none were there naturally.

Charon

Now there is one of the best ideas I've seen on this board. Can you imagine regular challanges going out cross country?

To the horders I say, show your nads, anounce to the target country you are going to hit them somewhere in a 4 sector square launching in 15-20 minutes or something like that. H311, I'd even join a horde for something like this.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #170 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:50:18 PM »

this thread is like I hate atomic weapons so we gonna nuke any country having them

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #171 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:53:23 PM »

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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
this thread is like I hate atomic weapons so we gonna nuke any country having them

Yes, but I think something very cool has come out of all this whining.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #172 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:53:29 PM »

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Originally posted by jamusta
Yeah we want to minimize the restrictions. Let them use their strategy and we will do the same. All we need to know is the area and put some sort of restriction to keep them within a few sectors. That way there is no way to avoid contact. We want this to be a challenge but also be fun for everyone. Lets say we pick an area and they can have the option to attack say 4 bases in that area from any direction or alt.

Without knowing what terrain is up it's harder to call this. If we have one of the ubermaps, it won't be tough to find an area of front with 3 or 4 bases each where not many other people are. On the smaller maps, it may get tricky to distinguish one drooling, puss-filled horde from the next.

I'll try to be there - my DSL line has been acting funny with all the rains in LA, but we'll see.

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #173 on:** January 12, 2005, 12:55:25 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Without knowing what terrain is up it's harder to call this. If we have one of the ubermaps, it won't be tough to find an area of front with 3 or 4 bases each where not many other people are. On the smaller maps, it may get tricky to distinguish one drooling, puss-filled horde from the next.

I'll try to be there - my DSL line has been acting funny with all the rains in LA, but we'll see.

No excuses unless your covered in mud!

rshubert · « **Reply #174 on:** January 12, 2005, 02:24:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
Ok, no problem. Probably getting a little too anal about things anyway. We may be flying Knights but that will be worked out well before hand.

Charon

Or a suggestion...we could load a map up in the Special Events Arena and have at it...then the furballers and horders from all countries could gravitate to one side or the other. Or not, it's just a thought.

anton · « **Reply #175 on:** January 12, 2005, 04:33:47 PM »

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Originally posted by jamusta
I believe the majority of anti horde posters are knits. We seem to have the majority of the so called quakers. Charon I dont really care where or how he wants to attack I just need to know which horde is his and what area. If they attack different bases in the same area so be it. That will make their hording least effective. I doubt this will happen. The knits are getting better at calling out the hordes although certain times I dont think they pay attention. WMScrap even made an anti horde mission even tho the nut case launched us from the wrong field, but it ended up becoming a fun fight.

Its starting to sound like I will need to re-enlist, and I will have to check out the knit side on entry.

Anton

Charon · « **Reply #176 on:** January 12, 2005, 09:39:04 PM »

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Or a suggestion...we could load a map up in the Special Events Arena and have at it...then the furballers and horders from all countries could gravitate to one side or the other. Or not, it's just a thought.

Not a bad idea, but It's probably a little late right now. I suppose your plan at the appropriate time and we'll probably wing it.

I take it Kinghts and not rooks... Right Guys?

Charon

HugeHead · « **Reply #177 on:** January 13, 2005, 08:20:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Zanth
This is a game. In that perspective everything in it is relatively mindless by definition ....or you might be taking it just a few few orders of magnitude too seriously..

Well said Zanth! I have enough trouble taking myself seriously let alone this or any other game. Don't you folks have enough stress in your real lives?

This type of debate always reminds me of playing kickball in grade school and arguing over wether a goal went between the "goal sneakers" or over one of them.

In fact, it's never the game we take too seriously...it's ourselves.

HH

Charon · « **Reply #178 on:** January 13, 2005, 03:10:09 PM »

Big fight tonight!

No Talent Base Capture Dweebs Vs. Heroic A2A killers

or

Dedicated War Winning Patriots vs. Selfish Quaker Furball Dweebs...

you make the call!

Look/goto for Shubie (bish) leading the BoP Horde and look/goto me (knights) as a point of reference (I ain't leadin' nobody, but I'll be there) for the knight counter air. Bring your favorite toy.

Put up or shut up! Feel the pain, relish the hate!

GRRRRRRR

Starts
9:30 E
8:30 C
7:30 M
6:30 P

Charon

anton · « **Reply #179 on:** January 13, 2005, 03:15:41 PM »

I doubt I can make it, I have an appointment scheduled to run into that time, but this concept makes me want to fly again.....

I will follow closely

Anton