Author Topic: What IS so bad about PETA? (Read 2842 times)

Furball · « **on:** December 30, 2004, 11:59:18 AM »

For all these "PETA SUCKS!!!" people.. this is their mission statement: -

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People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), with more than 800,000 members, is the largest animal rights organization in the world. Founded in 1980, PETA is dedicated to establishing and protecting the rights of all animals. PETA operates under the simple principle that animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment.

PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the fur trade, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds and other "pests," and the abuse of backyard dogs.

PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns.

The only issue i disagree with in that, is animals are ours to eat. It is a food chain after all. Apart from that it seems like quite a good organisation (apart from the odd 1 or 2 campaigns i have heard about) they sound similar to the RSPCA http://www.rspca.org.uk

Yes, some of their members are friggen stupid, but do they really deserve this treatment? or am i just un-educated about what they do?

wombatt · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:00:43 PM »

Indeed.
While I do see some of the PETA folks going WAY over board at times I do believe in there charter.
Cruelty to animals of any kind is not only wrong but immoral as well.

There are humane ways to slaughter animals for consumption.
(this is where I disagree with PETA BTW)
I feel people should have the right to eat meat if they choose to.
And hunting is necessary to control populations of animals.

Sox62 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:02:41 PM »

The idea is a good one,but many of them are extremists.

I remember reading a thread there where they talked about feeding their dogs vegetables only.

wombatt · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:04:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Sox62
The idea is a good one,but many of them are extremists.

I remember reading a thread there where they talked about feeding their dogs vegetables only.

LOL there poor dogs would not last too long i think.

Furball · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:05:51 PM »

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Originally posted by wombatt
LOL there poor dogs would not last too long i think.

or the owners... imagine how bad a dogs fart would be if it was fed only cabbage and broccoli etc...

Furball · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:08:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Sox62
The idea is a good one,but many of them are extremists.

In an organisation of 800,000 you are bound to get some extremists, but i bet the vast majority are decent. Sounds like the whole thing has been tainted by the actions of a few.

thrila · « **Reply #6 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:16:07 PM »

dogs can live without meat AFAIK- a pet cat will die though.

What i don't understand is why they associate eating meat with heart attacks. It seems to be the sandard line used against meat eaters is along the lines of "you wont be enjoying meat when you die of a heart attack". oops! forgot to say i meant the peta2 boards.

indy007 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:17:47 PM »

I respect their goal, but not their means. They have a history of funding Eco-Terrorism. For example, they've made donations to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF) in 2001, which shortly afterwards received a 4-count indictment for firebombing logging trucks. The ELF & it's sister group (ALF, which released 1,200 minks from an Iowa farm in 1 instance), are both considered domestic terror groups by the FBI. Then there's their members that think that dousing somebody's several thousand dollar coat in red paint is an acceptable form of protest. I don't know what the status is of their court case, but last I heard, the IRS was being asked to revoke their tax-exempt status, among other things, since they were funding domestic terror.

I've seen a "Stop firerbanding cows!" protest first hand. Didn't take part, walked by it while in D.C. on my way to McDonalds, but a legit protest is one thing...but blowing up / releasing people's property, economically damaging individuals just because "fur is murder!" ? I can't agree with those methods.

VWE · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:24:08 PM »

Humans are not herbivorous by nature. It is not natural for us to force ourselves to eat only fruits and/or vegetables all of the time and completely deprive ourselves of meat and eggs. We are omnivorous creatures, meaning that we are designed, by nature, to consume both plant AND animal material. This makes our diet versatile, enabling us to survive in the event that certain food sources become scarce. Omnivorism is one of the main reasons why we humans have become the most adaptive and successful living creatures on Earth.

guttboy · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:49:23 PM »

Humans are

OMNIVORES....

We eat plants/animals/ YUCK fungi......

My problems with PETA are that they are very extremist and by looking at there web and the Street team stuff...they are...

Look....I love animals....I breed an endangered species of fish in my fish tanks because they are pretty...lol...and because I dont want them to die off....

I have kept marine invertebrate/fish tanks for the better part of 15 years...

I was a biology major in college at a, well lets say unusual major, at the USAF academy.....

I have 2 dogs that I have rescued.......

SOOOOOO.....

Look.....appreciating nature and animals (lets not forget plants)....I cant stand environmental killing/misuse. If people are smart and take care of their surroundings then we can all live in harmony....LOL....but seriously....the unethical killing (read what you will) of animals for pleasure is wrong....

The individuals that torture and maim animals and plants for a joke or a thrill disgust me. Plain and simple.

Not to say that beef/pork/chicken/turkey/tuna..etc arent some of my favorite foods...dont get me wrong.....I LOVE EM...but gathering them to feed my family is NOT WRONG!

Back up a second.....if a lion kills a wildebeast....is that wrong? Ask the PETA folks.....

If a shark eats a tuna......is that wrong?????...ask the PETA FOLKS....

If an individual hunts to feed his family....is that wrong?

HIGHLIGHT THAT ONE...the individual hunting to feed his family....I dare say that an Inuit hunting seals or Polar Bears or whales to feed his family is a WRONG thing.......

Just me but the extremism in the PETA area pisses me off.....

My 2.5 cents...and I have more....and dont get me started.....LOL

Regards

guttboy · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2004, 12:51:28 PM »

INDY.....

DONT GET ME STARTED WITH ELF.......

They are plain and simple small minded children who have no better things to do than vandalize/terrorize folks.....

Trust me I know on the ELF front.........personal experience with those tards.....

eskimo2 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:01:40 PM »

"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."

— Bruce Friedrich, PETA’s vegan campaign coordinator, at the “Animal Rights 2001” conference

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"Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it."

— PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk, in the September 1989 issue of Vogue

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"Our campaigns are always geared towards children and they always will be"

— PETA vice president Dan Matthews, on the Fox News Network (December 19, 2003)

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eskimo

Jayclark · « **Reply #12 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:01:51 PM »

I like what PETA is doing. But I don't agree with them on certain things. There protest are very stupid imo. If I had a $2000 dollar mink coat and someone threw paint on me. You bet I would be kicking someones a**. And no one really gives a damn at the end of the day except PETA and the person who got paint on them. They try to force the beleives upon others. Your damn cat/dog shouldn't eat just vegies. This is really bad for there health. This is considered cruelty by many vets. They act like we aren't supposed to eat meat. If this was so we wouldn't be able to digest it or let alone chew and tear meat. They claim we are unhealthy, where as they are the ones taking supplements just to get all nutrients etc. There arguments are invalid. Its one thing to claim eating meat is bad becuase how animals are killed to eat them. But its another thing claiming that we shouldn't becuase we aren't suppose to. But anyone who took 7th grade Life Science class knows by nature we are supposed to.

soda72 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:04:06 PM »

If you were 6 inches tall your cat would eat you..

enough said...

guttboy · « **Reply #14 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:05:20 PM »

Jay Clark....

OMG HOW COULD YOU LET CAPTIVE ANIMALS EAT OTHERS!!!!!!!!

LOL

Author Topic: What IS so bad about PETA? (Read 2842 times)

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