Author Topic: What IS so bad about PETA? (Read 2848 times)

Nash · « **Reply #75 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:03:48 PM »

"Rights" are a construct of man.

They are abitrary.

The inalienable rights, such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are words spoken in the English language, by man.

Doesn't really mean these things are tattood on our foreheads from birth. We made them up.

So you can't stick them on animals and say "See?"....

wombatt · « **Reply #76 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:07:06 PM »

Nothing should happen to the bear.
The bear was simply being a bear.
The woods are his house.
His house his rules.

NUKE · « **Reply #77 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:08:44 PM »

Nash animals do not have rights, do they?

NUKE · « **Reply #78 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:09:36 PM »

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Originally posted by wombatt
Nothing should happen to the bear.
The bear was simply being a bear.
The woods are his house.
His house his rules.

what if a human shot a bear? The human was just being a human. Earth is the home of humans. Our house, our rules.

Nash · « **Reply #79 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:12:55 PM »

Animals have lots of rights...

I mean, there are hunting/fishing licences, right?

Those are their rights.

But those are the rights we gave them.

The word "rights" itself does not confer any special status on anything other than the meaning we humans give to that word.

You seem to be too invested in the word "rights". Just because we humans made that word up and pasted it on certain things really doesn't necesarily mean we have it right.

NUKE · « **Reply #80 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:16:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Animals have lots of rights...

I mean, there are hunting/fishing licences, right?

Those are their rights.

But those are the rights we gave them.

The word "rights" itself does not confer any special status on anything other than the meaning we humans give to that word.

You seem to be too invested in the word "rights". Just because we humans made that word up and pasted it on certain things really doesn't necesarily mean we have it right.

fishing and hunting liceces? LOL! Are you saying that licensing the killing of animals somehow demonstrates rights of animals?

Animals have no rights and never will.

Nash · « **Reply #81 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:17:13 PM »

well okay...

Take a few minutes and think up your defenition of "rights"....

Airhead · « **Reply #82 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:17:29 PM »

Meet me in CheckSix chat. I wanna talk nasty.

NUKE · « **Reply #83 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:19:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
well okay...

Take a few minutes and think up your defenition of "rights"....

Nash, I know what you are trying to say about the concept of "rights"

Animals cannot have rights.

Nash · « **Reply #84 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:20:31 PM »

I don't know what this word "rights" means...

Explain these "rights" that you speak of.

NUKE · « **Reply #85 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:25:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Animals have lots of rights...

I mean, there are hunting/fishing licences, right?

Those are their rights.

But those are the rights we gave them.

The word "rights" itself does not confer any special status on anything other than the meaning we humans give to that word.

You seem to be too invested in the word "rights". Just because we humans made that word up and pasted it on certain things really doesn't necesarily mean we have it right.

why don't you explain your definition of rights first.

NUKE · « **Reply #86 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:30:04 PM »

If animals have rights, can anyone define them for me? Can animals be owned, traded, slaughtered, hunted, breeded, experimented on, harvested, trained, caged, etc?

If animals have rights, I would like them defined. Anyone?

DiabloTX · « **Reply #87 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:30:12 PM »

I had real veal for lunch 2 days ago.

I was thinking about PETA with every bite.

whoopee that **** was good...

Nash · « **Reply #88 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:30:28 PM »

Nuke, what I am saying is that "rights" are made up by us. I don't know if we have the right answer. Aint gonna stop me from eating steak, but I don't know if we have the right answer.

When it comes to the rights of animals, I pay my fishing liscence... that's about it.

Other than that, I have no friggen clue. We could so easily be screwing this up... and it would only take the most arrogant not to at least accept that.

NUKE · « **Reply #89 on:** December 31, 2004, 11:32:00 PM »

Nash, you and I both know that animals have no rights.