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Offline patrone

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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2005, 03:56:39 PM »
And while I am at it: I can understand that many of you guys does not like Michael Moore.

I dont like him either. He pushes things way to far. He uses cheap tricks to get easy points.
But then again, he asks questions that really makes you wonder, dosīnt he? And if he didīnt, would you even think about why thoose Saudis where rushed out of the country 9/11?
Would you even know about it?

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2005, 04:00:40 PM »
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This isn't the first time an administration has gone to extremes violating the constitution and abusing citizens illegally to support a questionable overseas military expedition. During WW1, Wilson claimed to be acting on behalf of God. The publishers of German language newspapers were imprisoned. A US congressman was imprisoned for speaking out against the administration. A traveling salesman was murdered on suspicion of spreading influenza as part of a biological warfare plot by the Central powers.

There are many chilling parallels between that era and ours today. The only thing that gives me reassurance is that we survived that time, and that implies that we will survive this time as well.


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 yeah US is still full of religion fanatics, no doubts about it

and its quite funny to hear things like "Freedom is right given to us by a God"  and so on....

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2005, 04:13:46 PM »
We have no one to blame but ourselves, we put this admin in place, not once, but twice now, that makes us twice as stupid.

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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2005, 04:26:18 PM »
Man. im trying to imagine...... some group of  Pakistanian dweebs will raid some US company in afghanistan, imprisment people and simply claim, that they are terrorist. Later on, they will shot them in name of terrorism [ may be God is better].

Can you imagine reaction of american citizens at home ?

Im just wondering, how many young people around the world did join some "terrorist" organization because of sutch politic.

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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2005, 04:32:09 PM »
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Originally posted by patrone
And while I am at it: I can understand that many of you guys does not like Michael Moore.

I dont like him either. He pushes things way to far. He uses cheap tricks to get easy points.
But then again, he asks questions that really makes you wonder, dosīnt he? And if he didīnt, would you even think about why thoose Saudis where rushed out of the country 9/11?
Would you even know about it?

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meeen Bork... hallo there..

dont be stupid.. everybody at this bodrd know, that all evil terrorist are brainless dweebs and its absolutly forbiden... i mean pointless to think about their motivation... You better do not consider them to be humans or they will call you "terrorist lover"

Because sutch acts CAN NOT BE result of any of US "freedom" spreading movement.


btw. few days ago there were aniversary of Russian invasion to afghanistan....  and there were few audio records from US training sessions with Mujahedins... LOL  I would like to hear their contemporary teachers and their trough, i think it didnt change much :D

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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2005, 05:00:52 PM »
well that was a waste of time.......
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2005, 05:10:09 PM »
Our treatment of the people who ‘war on us’ is not a legal question.  Why do you think it is?  What do you think the United States has to prove?  We captured these people on the battlefield and now we hold them prisoner.  

As soon as all the elements of radical Islamic fundamentalism (around the world) renounce there desire to kill my fellow citizens (and prove it) then I say we consider their release.  Until then, they can say in their Orange suits forever.

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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2005, 05:13:52 PM »
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We have no one to blame but ourselves, we put this admin in place, not once, but twice now, that makes us twice as stupid.

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your right to spew filth and garbage is preserved, now shut up.


Sir, Yes sir, sorry sir, can I shine your boots sir...

Gee, so sorry other people have opinions that don't match yours, is that our loss or yours?

lets talk about garbage,... it fits the same subject.

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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2005, 05:43:32 PM »
Does anybody remember the interment camps they put the Japanese Americans in during WW2?
And they were Americans!

I think If we are going to imprison people they should have access to due process.

After all we are America not some communist country!
There has to be a better way.

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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2005, 05:45:28 PM »
US has turned to be one of the banana republics.

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« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2005, 05:48:59 PM »
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US has turned to be one of the banana republics.


I think perhapes maybe not enough thought was put into what to do with people suspected of crimes against America.

Obviously we can't just let them run around blowing up people.
But it would be nice to have the ability to release the Innocent as quickly as possible to.

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« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2005, 05:57:50 PM »
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US has turned to be one of the banana republics.


If that will keep you from jumping out of the World Trade Towers with your skin on fire, so be it.

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« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2005, 06:03:10 PM »
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... and the cigarette burns, dog attacks, murders and other crap must go.


Indeed wrong and stupid things to do to prisoners.
But much much worst things hove happened to POW's in times of war.

Not justifying it though and you have to admit it is much better than cutting there heads off.

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« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2005, 06:03:31 PM »
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Originally posted by GScholz
But it won't ... will it?


Well...., from Staga's view it has.

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« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2005, 06:06:04 PM »
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But it won't ... will it?


It has so far.