Author Topic: how can we imprison people without evidence? (Read 2449 times)

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #90 on:** January 04, 2005, 05:01:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Sure. When that happens.

Until then, we'll keep killing terrorists.

I have no truck about killing terrorists, but the witch hunts yeager speaks of, are tantamount to the Salem trials.

As for me being paranoid, yeager, I'm not the one talking about killing people because some guy told another guy that the guy next door heard that some other dude was playin in an online flight simulator and flying WW2 formation bombers into aircraft carriers..

Oh jeebus, a terrorist.....ARRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRGH

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Martlet · « **Reply #91 on:** January 04, 2005, 05:18:06 PM »

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Originally posted by lada
yeah yeah yeah .. and you will be surprised at next "like 9/11" event... .

Why will I be surprised?

Torque · « **Reply #92 on:** January 04, 2005, 05:27:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Im a agnostic torque but if it being a christian gets under the skin of liberal dorks and commie dweebs you can call me JEEBUS!!!!!

Lol....M'kay.

Yeager · « **Reply #93 on:** January 04, 2005, 05:42:35 PM »

perhaps lada is full of glee because he is in on planning the next big event?

Torque you poor bastard: Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and ye shall be Saved!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #94 on:** January 04, 2005, 06:03:08 PM »

this thread has been proven itslef mostly false by the persons defending it. The subject "how can we imprison people without evidence" just doesnt fit. Clearly if somone is detanined as an "illegal combatent" but must be held as a POW until the end of the conflict they were captured in.....well that spells it. they can be held AS A POW for the duration of this current conflict no matter what they are "classified as" by rumsfeld.

case closed as far as I'm concerned.

Martlet · « **Reply #95 on:** January 04, 2005, 06:10:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
this thread has been proven itslef mostly false by the persons defending it. The subject "how can we imprison people without evidence" just doesnt fit. Clearly if somone is detanined as an "illegal combatent" but must be held as a POW until the end of the conflict they were captured in.....well that spells it. they can be held AS A POW for the duration of this current conflict no matter what they are "classified as" by rumsfeld.

case closed as far as I'm concerned.

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your beliefs, "as far as you're concerned" amounts to nothing.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #96 on:** January 04, 2005, 06:40:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your beliefs, "as far as you're concerned" amounts to nothing.

but of course that all depends on your definition of the word "is"

Martlet · « **Reply #97 on:** January 04, 2005, 06:45:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
but of course that all depends on your definition of the word "is"

Why? I didn't use that word.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #98 on:** January 04, 2005, 06:46:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
Why? I didn't use that word.

It was a metephor.

See: Testimony, Bill Clinton

montag · « **Reply #99 on:** January 09, 2005, 03:38:24 AM »

Great article, glad you posted it.

genozaur · « **Reply #100 on:** January 10, 2005, 12:16:40 AM »

quote:Originally posted by GScholz
You quoted me like this: "The fact that routine torture of prisoners is under investigation is worrying enough", and asked me where I did get my information from. I answered you by giving you my source, namely Thomas Harrington of the FBI who informed the public about the ongoing investigation into multiple cases of abuse and torture of prisoners being used routinely at Guantanamo, reported by FBI personnel stationed there.

If you still don't get it you're a world-class twit.

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Simply PROVE IT. You stated that these ARE facts and they ARE routine based on FBI memos you read. Well what memos did you read brainiac?

Guns, there is no need to dig so deep into FBI files. Just buy any American newspaper (anyone). All of them are routinely reporting that the detainees in question were deprived of sleep and .....so on and so forth.
I don't know about your attitude towards such seemingly minor infraction of human rights, but I know that the most outrageous cases of false self-incriminating confessions during the rule of Comrade Stalin were achieved by the NKVD "investigators" when they TORTURED the suspects by depriving them of sleep. After several days of this torture people simply went crazy or signed any false confession they were given. Some tried to commit suicide because they could not bear this "small" torture anymore.
I wonder who instructs the US military "investigators" in this matter ?

moose · « **Reply #101 on:** January 10, 2005, 02:28:51 AM »

damn, i posted this right before leaving for a cruise through the caribbean. still out there (just north of st. lucien) but im surprised it got this much attention..

i'm just kinda surprised and appalled at how our justice system works. us citizen or not we shouldn't sink to the level of our enemies by imprisoning suspects without any terms of release like that. in my mind it just brings us to the level of those we are fighting.

Staga · « **Reply #102 on:** January 10, 2005, 03:59:29 AM »

Are you disagreeing with your supreme leader?

TRAITOR! BURN HIM !