Surly Drunk + Cop w/Taser = Comedy Gold!

[capt. apathy]

Originally posted by Bluedog
Gotta agree...what earthly use is there for an 'animal tazer'??
If you cannot control an animal without the use of high voltage charges, then you have no bussiness being anywhere near that animal.

If the situation warrants full on removal of an animal because it is endangering life or property, you should shoot it with a weapon that keeps the animal down once you let go of the trigger.
If you want the animal removed, but alive, use a tranquilizer gun, every vet has one.

See how that bull immediately jumped to his feet and charged? What good would that thing do you if the pen didnt stop him?
Cruel, sadistic, and as that bull leaping instantly to his feet and charging demonstrates, absolutely useless for it's intended use, it's just gonna turn him from 2 tonne of muscle, into 2 tonne of extremely pissed off muscle that will charge your stupid arse as soon as the current stops.
Sure, you could hit him again, but those batteries aint gonna last forever, and old man bull might look slow and dopey, but stamina certainly isnt his weak point.

LOL,    
  no, you're right.  any decent handler could have him rolling over and begging for table scraps.
  most owners really frown on destroying a stud bull worth thousands of dollars, simply because he's pissed and acting up.  it's a bull, that's what they do.  they are always pissed, always acting up, and always dangerous.  the ones that are mild mannered and easy to handle are few and far between, and often get over it without warning.
 a tool that gives you control of him instantly without destroying him or without the danger and delayed action of a tranquilizer is a God send to anyone who handles large animals.
  as far as him getting up, just hit him again.  electricity is a wonderful teacher and even the dumbest creature will get it eventually.

[Tarmac]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
also if I'm not mistaken there's a minimum safe distance the officer has to be and that two people touching while one gets tazered and both would feel it.

You can hold on to someone who's getting tazered, as long as you don't touch between the two probes.  Of course, touching either of the wires is also a bad thing.  

That's how we did it in the police academy - a spotter holding each arm, two probes in the torso.  The only spotters that got shocked were the ones who touched the wires.

ed: ugh, that zapzapzap noise brings back bad memories.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Bluedog
Gotta agree...what earthly use is there for an 'animal tazer'??
If you cannot control an animal without the use of high voltage charges, then you have no bussiness being anywhere near that animal.

I agree that it's cruel to use it as a training meathod or as a punishment tool BUT The section I quoted I gotta say something about.

What about electric fences?  I grew up in Nebraska and had a cow pasture that was behind my back yard.  Further up in the pasture was an electric fenced area.  I dont know why it was electric but the cows stayed the hell away from it.

[wombatt]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I agree that it's cruel to use it as a training meathod or as a punishment tool BUT The section I quoted I gotta say something about.

What about electric fences?  I grew up in Nebraska and had a cow pasture that was behind my back yard.  Further up in the pasture was an electric fenced area.  I dont know why it was electric but the cows stayed the hell away from it.

Peed on an electric fence once the key word there is once.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by wombatt
Peed on an electric fence once the key word there is once.

What's even funnier is if you have one that phases in an out.  Somone with a trained ear can hear it.  Its on for a couple seconds and off for a seconds.  Take a buddy up there and just strike up a conversation with him.  out of the blue (to him) put your hands on the fence casually but remove them before the buzz comes back.  Through out the conversation do this and eventually he'll think its safe and grab it when its "hot"

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Tarmac
You can hold on to someone who's getting tazered, as long as you don't touch between the two probes.  Of course, touching either of the wires is also a bad thing.  

That's how we did it in the police academy - a spotter holding each arm, two probes in the torso.  The only spotters that got shocked were the ones who touched the wires.

ed: ugh, that zapzapzap noise brings back bad memories.

interesting.....the ground loop must go back to the tazer then otherwise anyone in physical contact with the person getting tazered SHOULD have current flow going through them.  I gotta say the gun is amazing!

[Bluedog]

Cows yeah, that bull?...dunno that i would like to have an electric fence as the only thing between me and him
Allthough its only the animal's sex that differs, cows are a whole differant kettle of fish than an enraged bull.

I agree that for dealing with crims, or violent people or whatever, yep, it's a great tool....does the job without anyone being exessively hurt, I just cant think of any situation that would make it a viable option for use on animals, in every case I can think of there is a better, or more effective way to deal with the animal, that being, A) a real bullet, right between the eyes, or B) a tranquilizer dart.
And either of those would only be used when just a couple cowboys on horses, with a few well trained working dogs cant do the job.

Mostly I have this opinion because of the fact that the bull leapt straight to his feet, there didnt appear to be any long, or for that matter, short term effect once the current stopped....it just isnt enough weapon for the job of fully controlling, or removing an animal like that bull, it is however plenty enough to get him right royally pissed off at you.

That bull in the vid had only one thought on his mind when he got up, and it wasn't  "Holy snapping ducksnot batman!! I've been tazered, I better stay down or they'll do it again"

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Bluedog
Cows yeah, that bull?...dunno that i would like to have an electric fence as the only thing between me and him
Allthough its only the animal's sex that differs, cows are a whole differant kettle of fish than an enraged bull.

I agree that for dealing with crims, or violent people or whatever, yep, it's a great tool....does the job without anyone being exessively hurt, I just cant think of any situation that would make it a viable option for use on animals, in every case I can think of there is a better, or more effective way to deal with the animal, that being, A) a real bullet, right between the eyes, or B) a tranquilizer dart.
And either of those would only be used when just a couple cowboys on horses, with a few well trained working dogs cant do the job.

Mostly I have this opinion because of the fact that the bull leapt straight to his feet, there didnt appear to be any long, or for that matter, short term effect once the current stopped....it just isnt enough weapon for the job of fully controlling, or removing an animal like that bull, it is however plenty enough to get him right royally pissed off at you.

That bull in the vid had only one thought on his mind when he got up, and it wasn't  "Holy snapping ducksnot batman!! I've been tazered, I better stay down or they'll do it again"

What sucks is I know people are going to end up using this a punishment type tool wich is totally wrong.

But for something to just carry on your person to get you out of they way of harm if need be I think it would work on bulls.

A more practical application would be pitbulls and/or dangerous dogs in general.  Tranqs dont work quick enough an this might just give you enough time to get a choke collar on him and get him in a cage.  practicing on dogs though probably isnt good PR though.  Hell practicing on any animal isnt good PR if you ask me.

[Bluedog]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
interesting.....the ground loop must go back to the tazer then otherwise anyone in physical contact with the person getting tazered SHOULD have current flow going through them.  I gotta say the gun is amazing!

Did you see the vid where the bloke had been hit with 40mm baton rounds, and had the dog hanging off him when they fired the Tazer?
I was wondering why the hell it didnt frazzle the dog too, since it was attahed to his arm while the current was flowing.

[boxboy28]

Originally posted by Zaphod
He stood there and gave verbal commands while listening to the drunks slobbering and partially incomprehensable mix of whining and threats.  It was edited out because it's boring.

Zaphod

ZAP im glad to see you do read the fourms .......... and give your insight!    


1 questioni have is that ........... the police using these things have they been hit with them?(most likely yes) and have they been hit repeatedly like in the videos?    can they put there arms behind there backs after geting ZAPPPED (no pun intened LOL) ????

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by boxboy28
ZAP im glad to see you do read the fourms .......... and give your insight!    


1 questioni have is that ........... the police using these things have they been hit with them?(most likely yes) and have they been hit repeatedly like in the videos?    can they put there arms behind there backs after geting ZAPPPED (no pun intened LOL) ????

good question actually.  I actually doubt that law enforcment types have been hit one after another with them.  as far as arm usage don't know either.

I do know I heard on the news that  police had killed somone recently w/ a tazer.  Turns out afet autopsy he actually died of the massive amounts of cocain he had in his system.

What kills me is I can see somone sueing this company for having a relative killed by a tazer.  To me you have to be doing somthing pretty bad to be tazered (MOST OF THE TIME) or your law suit should be against the police.  Non or less than lethal weapons have changed the face of law enforcement over the last 10 years and these weapons IMHO save WAY more people than they are likely to take.

[rpm]

Yeah that's almost as funny as the drunk that died from a heart attack after Ft.Worth P.D. tazer'ed him 3 times. Who'da thunk electric shock can cause cardiac arrest?

[Creamo]

Don't stop Gunslingers wannabe copper parade. He was just getting to unstoppable bbs knowhow velocity.

[KBall]

Well according to Amnesty International 74 people have died in the U.S. and Canada from Tazers since 2001. The problem I see developing is that law enforcement people are not fully comprehending that Tazers are capable of killing. Law enforcement agencies are using Tazers more and more for minor infractions. The following link is a good read.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/ENGAMR511392004

[Wolf14]

Funny....

Officer told theguy everything that was going to happen before he did it and all he had to do was just lie still.

Lead a horse to water but you cant make'm drink.