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« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2005, 08:11:41 AM »
LOL! Beetle, read the whole thing you posted... not just the parts you highlighted.

Damn dude... you keep posting stuff that supports toads argument and totally ingoring ignoring it.

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The decline in the latter period as compared with the three years before the war is no doubt due to the restrictions on the purchase of firearms imposed by the Regulations under the Defence of the Realm Act, and the measures taken for the internment of alien enemies during the war; but if firearms can be brought into the country or obtained here with the same ease when peace is concluded as the law at present allows, the numbers may be expected to rise to or above their former level.


ROTFLMAO!

The 1920 legislation was built attop the "defense of the realm" act.  Some might even call that a "patriot bill" of sorts.  People like to use fancy terms like that when taking away your rights.

The section also highlights striking workers with guns beetle.  I wonder why they'd do that.  Who were the bolshevicks again?

You haven't posted a single thing that refutes the quotes Toad posted.  You've only posted things that support his assertions.  You really are quite bad at this.

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« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2005, 08:18:41 AM »
hmm... looks like the "upper class" were not only afraid of commies but they were afraid of all the other peasants too..  

this is what I have allways calimed... the brits hang on to their class system and feel that any subject "below" them has no rights except what the upper class gives them...  they were worried that all this riff raff and criminal class that fought a war for them would now be armed and might take offense at being "the lower class" and "criminals".

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« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2005, 12:08:20 PM »
39 murdered in Norway last year, and 9 with guns.

looks like our guncontrol is working here.

work it out yourselve we are 4.7 mill inhabintants here. (that is a pretty good % in killings with guns I think)

And yes we have weapons here too, but most of it is hunting weapons like shotguns (and there is strickt regulations for how to keep them in the home too) That means there is no fast way to use it when you get mad or loose it anyway, it pretty much have to be a planned murder and that is harder for normal people to do.

who the *** need a revolver or a handgun, unless for using it for beeing in a competition.
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« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2005, 02:16:18 PM »
Lazs,

Your comment on the class system here in England is right on the money, even if many Brits don't realize that's what they're doing.

My wife is of Taiwanese descent, but she has lived in the US all her life.  She went to a local Cambridge college tonight to take a computer class and here's how she was greeted:

Betty:  "I'm looking for the Computer course.  Can you tell me where the room is?"

Receptionist:  "The Coversational Chinese course is in Room 4L"

Betty: (not getting mad yet) "I'm not here for any Chinese course, I'm here for the Computer course."

Receptionist: "Down the hall, room 6"

Betty goes down the hall, finds the door locked and the room empty, goes back to the receptionist and finds another person at the desk.

Betty:  "Room 6 is the wrong room.  Where is the Computer course?"

Receptionist 2 leans over and says to receptionist 1: "I thought you said she was American"

*finger*

Every damn place we go, we get this sort of thing.  It's like everyone here is wearing these magical glasses so they only see what they're used to seeing, and magical ear plugs so they only hear what they want to hear.  A green martian with 3 eyes could go to a school in the most inbred middle-American town and at least get directions to a class without being insulted, incorrectly labeled, and given the run-around, but it happens almost every time my wife leaves the house here.

It's not just the guns Lazs.  The whole country looks at many things completely differently than Americans.  When an American woman goes into a school and clearly asks in an upper middle class east-coast accent how to get to a computer class, 2 separate receptionists were completely unable to get past their preconceived biases to provide a simple room number.  This happens to her every damn day.  It's not always the same bias, but there is always SOME bias that shows through.  Whether it's because she's a colonist, a foreigner (any foreigner), looks Chinese, is a woman, has natural lighter brown streaks in her otherwise dark brown hair, or is a medical doctor, almost every so-called "service employee" she's met in this country has come up with some reason to demean her or lie to her.

She hates this place, hates most of the people she's met in this country, and I can't blame her.  The last time we went through customs, even though she handed her passport to the customs official, he refused to speak to her.  After the usual entry questions all directed to me, he handed both passports back to me as if she wasn't even there.  Coming back to this country after a vacation makes her want to cry because she's treated like crap.

I personally rather like England, but that's because nobody treats me like that and I have a thick enough skin to shrug off the small amount of anti-american sentiment I occasionally run across.  But when we get out of here, we're not coming back.
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« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2005, 02:49:46 PM »
eagl... I understand that... It is ingrained in euro trash.    I don't think this kind of biggotry will ever go away there.    It taints everything they do or say.    It is a form of racism where even the  "royals" feel that they have to comment and  wonder why the lower classes can't just behave as their "station" should dictate.    

The guns thing just points it out...  Ihave allways had the peculiar Amercian habit of not judging a persons abilities or worth based on his social standing and  find that human rights doled out on such a basis (that of social status) is particularly repugnant...  

That is why when euros here say that it is ok for me to have a gun but not my countrymen..... I say.... save that crap for your own biggoted litttle trainwreck of a pissant country.   I want no part of it.

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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2005, 04:00:57 PM »
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eagl... I understand that... It is ingrained in euro trash.    I don't think this kind of biggotry will ever go away there.    It taints everything they do or say.    It is a form of racism where even the  "royals" feel that they have to comment and  wonder why the lower classes can't just behave as their "station" should dictate.    

The guns thing just points it out...  Ihave allways had the peculiar Amercian habit of not judging a persons abilities or worth based on his social standing and  find that human rights doled out on such a basis (that of social status) is particularly repugnant...  

That is why when euros here say that it is ok for me to have a gun but not my countrymen..... I say.... save that crap for your own biggoted litttle trainwreck of a pissant country.   I want no part of it.

lazs


What your now says is what you hate : racism.
You have not a clue about europe do you ? upper class and lower class was removed long time ago.
Gun control works in Norway look at my post over, it do keep the insane or outofcontrol idiots apart from easy getting guns. and 9 kills a year is still to much with guns but % it can be ok since we all are humans.

I want it to stay this way here, and by all means you can have your guns if you want, why should I care ? It is after all your country and I think you need it too, I never said anything else.
With all this I mean handguns.

werll this is about skandinavia anyway dont know if england  suck the way eagl says ?
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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2005, 04:21:00 PM »
Lazs and eagl remind me of Austin Power's father from Goldmember.

"There are two things I cannot stand:

Intolerance of other people's cultures

and the Dutch (in this case Brits)"

lol
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« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2005, 04:50:42 PM »
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Lazs and eagl remind me of Austin Power's father from Goldmember.


Eagl reminds me more of the American from a Fawlty Towers episode ;)

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« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2005, 04:53:58 PM »
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Lazs and eagl remind me of Austin Power's father from Goldmember.

"There are two things I cannot stand:

Intolerance of other people's cultures

and the Dutch (in this case Brits)"

lol


Hardly.
And for some reason, judging by the type of person I think eagl is, and lazs as well, would never treat someone the way eagl mentioned his wife being treated.

The thing I find most comical is the simple fact that the brits defend themselves before an attack is ever made, and probably would have never been made in the first place.

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« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2005, 05:15:33 PM »
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The thing I find most comical is the simple fact that the brits defend themselves before an attack is ever made, and probably would have never been made in the first place.


Like GWB before Iraq was supposedly gonna attack with his supposed WMDs?

And about the Irish thing someone mentioned earlier (Lazs?), and there being 'no big cities in Ireland'.  Yeah, cos the Irish were over here in all our big cities my friend ;)

And there was serious miscontent at that time among the Irish immigrants, especially in Glasgow and Liverpool.

@ Eagl:  It's a shame this happens with your wife.  I would suggest you both move to Scotland - however while I could guarantee a warm welcome and hassle-free stay for your wife, you might get one or two snide comments when someone hears your English accent  :p

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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2005, 06:01:32 PM »
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Hardly.
And for some reason, judging by the type of person I think eagl is, and lazs as well, would never treat someone the way eagl mentioned his wife being treated.

The thing I find most comical is the simple fact that the brits defend themselves before an attack is ever made, and probably would have never been made in the first place.


This is what lazs said and what prompted my comment:

"It is ingrained in euro trash.  I don't think this kind of biggotry will ever go away there.  It taints everything they do or say. It is a form of racism where even the "royals" feel that they have to comment and wonder why the lower classes can't just behave as their "station" should dictate. "

Lazs attacked with an all encompassing bigoted remark and then pointed a finger at British bigotry in the next sentance.

I mean, if that isn't irony what the heck is?

It's also quite funny to see them argue two completely different issues and meld them into one.  Lazs, who has been to Britain ONCE, is yammering on about Class distinction and eagl is talking about racism.  Now, unless university receptionists are classified as "gentry" then how can this be the same issue?

I am horrified by what happened to eagl's wife, but the acts of a few idiots should not taint the whole country and whole population.  If it does then THAT is bigotry.

My wife is Vietnamese and was never treated that way in Britain.  If we ever go to the US and a few idiots treat her badly due to her race should I paint all Americans in the same light as lazs and eagl have done here?  Please let me know so I can act in accordance with your twisted morals.
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« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2005, 07:09:23 PM »
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Like GWB before Iraq was supposedly gonna attack with his supposed WMDs?


His WMD's?. Sorry this shall not pass.  Every major player involved claimed Iraq had WMD's.  A few examples:  Russia, France, Great Britain,  the U.N.  



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« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2005, 07:20:45 PM »
attempt to blame bush for disaterous nation building?

accepted.
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« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2005, 10:08:20 PM »
what disaster?   Back up your Bs or STFU.
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« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2005, 10:10:40 PM »
you really want me too?

i'll tell you what.  you get one more person to second that request and i will.  but i warn you.  i will.
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