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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2005, 07:56:36 PM »
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sadly yes.


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note where it says that only 10% of the population even have the right to vote.


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we did a bang up job on that one.


Ummm....we didnt go to Kuwait to change their style of gov't, we only went there to kick out the Iraqi army. Maybe you should ask the Iraqi army if we did a *bang up job* on them ;)
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Offline Crumpp

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« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2005, 09:07:29 PM »
Don't forget JB88 to add:

The Peoples Republic of China

The North Korean Peoples Republic

Islamic Republic of Iran

Union of Soviet Socialist Republic

Peoples Democratic Republic of Vietnam

And the list goes on and on.......


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« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2005, 02:01:44 AM »
Most patriotic Egyptians would be offended by being called arab.  They consider themselves a unique African culture.
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« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2005, 02:35:42 AM »
I would have to agree bunch.  They seem to have a slightly different gait than Saudis. As a matter of fact a few years ago  I was at a bazaar in Cairo and...

All the kids in the marketplace say
Ay oh whey oh, ay oh whey oh
Walk like an Egyptian
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Offline Momus--

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« Reply #49 on: January 12, 2005, 03:13:02 AM »
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Originally posted by Elfie
Ummm....we didnt go to Kuwait to change their style of gov't, we only went there to kick out the Iraqi army. Maybe you should ask the Iraqi army if we did a *bang up job* on them ;)


You missed the point. Kuwait was "liberated". US troops occupied Saudi Arabia for over a decade. The Egyptian regime is propped up by US military and economic aid.  Neither society is particularly free. The topic starter is either:

1) Stupid
2) Trolling.

Seeing as it is Nuke, my money is on option 1.
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Offline Flyboy

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« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2005, 05:34:55 AM »
SO? if a country get aid from the US its not free?

israel is COMPLETELY depended on the US
yet its free, so egypt..
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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2005, 05:49:01 AM »
It isn't necessarily a bad thing if the countrys leadership doesn't allow democratic elections, if the leaders are of good type - which they usually aren't.
There can be also wise "dictators", just as many as there can be much worse elected presidents.
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Offline patrone

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« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2005, 07:45:01 AM »
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Afghanistan, Iraq and "Palestine" are all occupied. Why is it that they are the only 3 Arab nations that have or will have free elections?


Nuke, did you miss all geographical lessons in school or just parts of them?

How do you define an "Arab" country? Is it by population, religon or geographical?  
Palestine Arab? Egypt not Arab? Turk not Arab? Iran Arab (Infact they call themself Persians, they would get very insulted if you called them Arab)? Lybia Arab? Lebanon not Arab? Israel not Arab? Syria Arab? Kuwait Arab? Iraq Arab? Marocco not Arab? Tunisia not Arab?

And tell me how there can be "free elections" in a state that is occupied?

Would "free elections" supervised by either Nazis or Soviet made a diffrence?
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Offline JB88

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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2005, 08:23:40 AM »
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Originally posted by Flyboy
SO? if a country get aid from the US its not free?

israel is COMPLETELY depended on the US
yet its free, so egypt..


to some, isreal is "free" in much the same way as native americans are "free" on reservations.
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« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2005, 08:27:05 AM »
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Originally posted by JB88
to some, isreal is "free" in much the same way as native americans are "free" on reservations.


What a ridiculous analogy....
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Offline Flyboy

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« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2005, 08:30:37 AM »
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to some , isreal is "free" in much the same way as native americans are "free" on reservations.


:rolleyes:

did you thought twice before punching the reply bottun?
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« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2005, 08:40:14 AM »
If I had to place a bet on the 1st arab democracy, I'd put it on the palestinians. No other arab nation is even close.
I give them 50% chance of success in the next 10 years.

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SO? if a country get aid from the US its not free?

israel is COMPLETELY depended on the US
yet its free, so egypt..

The US is considered free even though it is controlled by Jews.

It's true! I read it on the internet!

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« Reply #57 on: January 12, 2005, 09:02:22 AM »


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Offline Momus--

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« Reply #58 on: January 12, 2005, 09:12:06 AM »
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SO? if a country get aid from the US its not free?



Who said that?

Egypt is a far from free society. Rightly or wrongly, the US supports it regime. That is all.
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Offline JB88

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« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2005, 09:23:43 AM »
i think that you meant to ask, did i "think" twice before punching the reply button.

yep.
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