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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #120 on: January 16, 2005, 02:15:29 PM »
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I have to forgive you, Elfie. :mad:


The first time I saw *Geriatriczaur* I was eating, and I had to clean my monitor from all the partially chewed bits of food after seeing that :rofl
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« Reply #121 on: January 16, 2005, 08:32:57 PM »
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Originally posted by GScholz
No, the "no-fly zones" were not UN sanctioned and thus illegal.


THE NO-FLY ZONES Humanitarian basis for the no-fly zones

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...Legal basis for the no-fly zones


30. The precise legal basis for the no-fly zones is controversial. The MoD's view is that—

... the justification for the No Fly Zones remains that of overwhelming humanitarian necessity in that, without our deployment, a severe humanitarian crisis would in all probability recur....[72]

...31. Our colleagues on the Foreign Affairs Committee recently examined the 'doctrine' of humanitarian necessity in their Report on Kosovo. They concluded—

... at the very least, the doctrine of humanitarian intervention has a tenuous basis in current international customary law...
Specifically in relation to NATO's intervention in Kosovo, that Committee decided that the action was 'of dubious legality in the current state of international law' but 'justified on moral grounds'.[76] The Foreign Affairs Committee supports the 'aim of establishing in the United Nations new principles governing humanitarian intervention'.[77] We too would support that aim but in the meantime, in the absence of internationally agreed procedures, we have no doubt that UK participation in the no-fly zone operations over Iraq is justified on moral and humanitarian grounds.



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« Reply #122 on: January 17, 2005, 02:19:52 AM »
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As a philologist with military background, I can envisage the realization of the popular Russian saying 'kontsy v vodu' ('the ends - into the water'). This ends my post here. :cool:


Are you saying they dumped their WMDs into the sea or lakes?
Funny thing is many countries have done the same to chemical weapons but not for hiding them but to get rid of them for good.
I hope you didn't leave that out intentionally :)
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« Reply #123 on: January 17, 2005, 08:28:57 AM »
lmao  GD amerihaters coming in here owning all the americans.. lol :lol :lol

Be gentle GS  be gentle! hehe
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« Reply #124 on: January 17, 2005, 02:25:57 PM »
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The "no-fly zones" was a violation of Iraqi air space. Unauthorized entry of military aircraft into another nations airspace is by definition a military invasion of that nation and thus utterly illegal without UN approval.



Again, the UN doesnt make International Law, it's only guidelines for operations is a *charter*. Approval or disapproval from the UN has nothing to do with legal or illegal.
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« Reply #125 on: January 17, 2005, 03:02:08 PM »
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Yeah well maybe I won't because I don't touch Cisco gear.

Lada, if you're going to try and be a smartarse you could at least try and get your english to a level that we can understand. If english is a second language, and you can couple, don't try and be smart.

Now, be gone, crawl back to your failed communist experiment. Your grasping straws over how many provinces get to participate in Iraqs first steps to a true democracy is transparent as Soviet-envy of how the Soviet Union crumbled at the feet of the US.


come one Vulcan its old "out of fashion" story.... english is my 3rd language.

however in 6 month i i will may be take one more.

HMmm i see that you had to bash a little bit coz you didnt know what to say ... ahh... ok then ... np
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Offline genozaur

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« Reply #126 on: January 17, 2005, 11:02:01 PM »
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Are you saying they dumped their WMDs into the sea or lakes?
Funny thing is many countries have done the same to chemical weapons but not for hiding them but to get rid of them for good.
I hope you didn't leave that out intentionally :)


When someone dumps something into the water while reading a newspaper and drinking beer, does it make a big difference what his intentions were?
 :confused: :D :cool:
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« Reply #127 on: January 18, 2005, 04:32:57 AM »
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Originally posted by GScholz

This is typical war mongering hypocrisy. You're just trying to veil your illegal, unjust, self-interested war with the perception of doing good. If your true objective had been to free people from tyrants you would have stared in Africa. For the amount of resources you have spent on this war you probably could have cleaned up much of Africa from tyrants that make Hussein seem like a really nice guy. Of course as your government put it other "troubled" countries are not "floating on a sea of oil".

You see, that's the benefit of having a poorly educated and informed population. It's makes your government's work so much easier. "Be afraid America! Terrorism is everywhere! Your government will protect you! Just shut up and watch American Gladiators! Your Government will protect you!"


/Applauds.
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« Reply #128 on: January 18, 2005, 11:03:54 AM »
"How fortunate for the government that the people do not read."

Made a good point, since the entire Western, "civilized" world stood back and watched a million+ innocents get slaughtered in Rwanda in 1994.

SH was one of "Our Boys," for quite some time, as was OBL. We let them do our dirty work, and paid, and are paying the price for it. This is what happens when you lie down with dogs. You get up with fleas.

Those pan-African warlords and their governments have nothing to offer, and neither do its citizens, so, let em kill each other off...regardless of how much worse they are than SH and OBL combined X10.
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« Reply #129 on: January 18, 2005, 01:19:05 PM »
We will DOMINATE EVERYONE...

get ready you little pe-ons...get ready to take it


You know that computer you are using right now?...What OS are you using>..

YA thats rigth>>>AMERICAN BABY!!!



             "WE RUN TINGS....TiNGS NO RUN WE!!!!!!!"

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HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA....like I tell you little whiny gilrs...If you dont want to take it in the Face..turn around and take it in the 6


and ..daMMIT MAN...I wish G-Shulz"I know nushing"!! and his crew would stand behind what they say...HUMAN SHIELD!!!!..I hear that Iran may need some shields soon..Didnt I see that bus leavn Eur0Land?


Remeber that bus that was on its way to Iraq with all the "human Shileds"...lmfao...this is great
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Offline Elfie

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« Reply #130 on: January 18, 2005, 01:48:07 PM »
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When you have signed that charter you are bound to abide by it. The USA has signed the UN Charter.


The UN Charter still has nothing to do with legal or illegal. The UN doesnt pass legislation and never has. Also what did the UN do to enforce its own resolution to Saddam to stop oppressing his own people?
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« Reply #131 on: January 18, 2005, 01:58:25 PM »
notice how Iraq left Kuwait right away after the UN told them to?
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« Reply #132 on: January 18, 2005, 02:58:58 PM »
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Oh no, not again. I refuse to educate every singe dimwit on this BBS on the functions of the United Nations. Go to http://www.un.org/law/ and do the work yourself.



Is the UN a legislative body? If not, then how can it pass laws that make things either legal or illegal. You claimed the no-fly zones in Iraq werent legal because they werent authorized by the UN.
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« Reply #133 on: January 18, 2005, 03:33:32 PM »
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Is the UN a legislative body? If not, then how can it pass laws that make things either legal or illegal. You claimed the no-fly zones in Iraq werent legal because they werent authorized by the UN.



If USA have signed the UN charta and USA did 1945.
Then USA is also agreeing to the international laws that UN has set.
(If you remember: USA is a funding member and also in the SC?)

If USA dont accept the jurisdiction of the International Court? Now thats another issue.
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« Reply #134 on: January 18, 2005, 03:49:50 PM »
Is this thread new or from 2003?  Is this a BBS or a hamster wheel?
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