Author Topic: US Gives Up On Search For WMD's (Read 4308 times)

Elfie · « **Reply #135 on:** January 18, 2005, 03:50:28 PM »

A charter that governs how an existing body of people operates is NOT the equivalent to law. Yes the USA signed the UN charter.

Let's use GScholz's example of the no-fly zones in Iraq.

The UN passed a resolution saying Saddam has to stop oppressing his own people. The USA, Great Britain and France set up and enforce no-fly and no-drive zones in northern and southern Iraq to enforce the resolution. Someone says...hey thats illegal the UN didnt authorize it...so France pulls out. The USA and GB continue on enforcing the no-fly/no-drive zones.

The UN passes a resolution, then does nothing to enforce it and when others take it upon themselves to enforce it.....then the action taken becomes illegal?

Elfie · « **Reply #136 on:** January 18, 2005, 03:53:42 PM »

I saw nothing in that link you provided GScholz that says the UN passes laws or is a legislative body. Which does nothing to support your claim that UN approval is required to make military actions legal.

patrone · « **Reply #137 on:** January 18, 2005, 04:32:29 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
I saw nothing in that link you provided GScholz that says the UN passes laws or is a legislative body. Which does nothing to support your claim that UN approval is required to make military actions legal.

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THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE
Article 92
The International Court of Justice shall be the principal judicial organ of the United Nations. It shall function in accordance with the annexed Statute, which is based upon the Statute of the Permanent Court of International Justice and forms an integral part of the present Charter.

Article 93
1. All Members of the United Nations are ipso facto parties to the Statute of the International Court of Justice.

Now read the charter, please

wombatt · « **Reply #138 on:** January 18, 2005, 05:16:48 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
notice how Iraq left Kuwait right away after the UN told them to?

Elfie · « **Reply #139 on:** January 18, 2005, 05:21:22 PM »

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Originally posted by patrone
Now read the charter, please

A charter is NOT a law. GS has said that if things dont have UN approval they are illegal.

TheDudeDVant · « **Reply #140 on:** January 18, 2005, 05:30:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
A charter is NOT a law. GS has said that if things dont have UN approval they are illegal.

I don't understand where you are going with this. Are you mistaking this for some American law that affects you personnally or could be ruled on by some district judge?

Have you considered the eyes of the International Court of Justice that each member state has signed to honor?

RedTop · « **Reply #141 on:** January 18, 2005, 08:08:51 PM »

You U.S. guys continue to argue with the Euro's. Why? They will not EVER agree with one thing or at least most things this country does for whatever reason. Why beat your heads agaisnt the screen?

Why argue with the U.S. haters both here in this country or abroad?

Let them compare notes as to why this country sucks or why we are War Mongers and the Police of the world. Let them decide what we should or shouldn't be doing. Let them talk all the talk they want.

Let the haters here do the same. Let them continue to live here and hate here at the same time.

It really is irrelevant what they think. Don't you agree? None of them here on this BBS will be able to change it. None here on this BBS that hate this country so much can do a thing to make this country change a dang thing.

U.S. people that hate everything here can't do a thing but vote and gripe either.

Let it go....means nothing.

When not if but when we get hit again , hopefully we will have a leader that will hit back 100 times harder. Hopefully we will have a leader that has convictions and will do what he thinks is the right thing.

No matter the end result , the U.S. will be wrong or "Have it coming" as was posted before in this thread.

Being the best always comes with the lesser's judging you.

genozaur · « **Reply #142 on:** January 18, 2005, 08:50:50 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Is this thread new or from 2003? Is this a BBS or a hamster wheel?

This thread is from the early 2003 when 1,200 "specialists" etc. started the search for the WMD.

genozaur · « **Reply #143 on:** January 18, 2005, 09:08:12 PM »

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Originally posted by RedTop
You U.S. guys continue to argue with the Euro's. Why? They will not EVER agree with one thing or at least most things this country does for whatever reason. Why beat your heads agaisnt the screen?

Why argue with the U.S. haters both here in this country or abroad?

Let them compare notes as to why this country sucks or why we are War Mongers and the Police of the world. Let them decide what we should or shouldn't be doing. Let them talk all the talk they want.

Let the haters here do the same. Let them continue to live here and hate here at the same time.

It really is irrelevant what they think. Don't you agree? None of them here on this BBS will be able to change it. None here on this BBS that hate this country so much can do a thing to make this country change a dang thing.

U.S. people that hate everything here can't do a thing but vote and gripe either.

Let it go....means nothing.

When not if but when we get hit again , hopefully we will have a leader that will hit back 100 times harder. Hopefully we will have a leader that has convictions and will do what he thinks is the right thing.

No matter the end result , the U.S. will be wrong or "Have it coming" as was posted before in this thread.

Being the best always comes with the lesser's judging you.

I'm simply the best, - said Mr Simpleton with his usual matter-off-factish simple tone.

Raider179 · « **Reply #144 on:** January 18, 2005, 10:53:31 PM »

Only I dont understand about WMD is why someone didnt friggin plant some in Iraq. Where is our CIA when we need them. One nice batch of sarin and bingo America aint looking so wrong now bout Iraq.

As for the U.N. it is an american tool. It is something we use to achieve different things on our agenda without looking like we did it. We fund most of it, and we supply most of the troops.

I for one am always open to discussion about global topics Europeans. Too many people have that same opinion Red. Why bother? Maybe you might change someone else's point of view, you might learn something new, you might change your point of view, the list goes on.