US Gives Up On Search For WMD's

[Nash]

"Iraq is no threat to America. It's just plain redikulous!"

Whoo boy, remember the daily floggings that poor sonahvab1tch got over that? Those were the days, eh?

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Elfie
Not once were we ever told that WMD was the only reason for going into Iraq. The list of reaons for going into Iraq has been documented numerous times on this board, not our fault you choose to ignore every reason EXCEPT wmd. It has also been documented that some of Iraq's stockpiles of WMD were NEVER accounted for. Iraq also had a stockpile of uranium, several hundred tons iirc.

It was the PRIMARY reason for the invasion of Iraq! Nothing else. And since that has proven to be completely false so are the reasons for being there. Do you really think the other reasons are worth the cost in lives and situation that Iraq is now in? Even Blair wouldn't of followed him on that crusade if that was the case.

When Bush say's "Absolutely" he hardly looks as if he has convniced himself on that one let alone anyone else.

Do you think Bush would of been able to sell the reason for invading Iraq on anything else other then making out that he was a threat to the world and armed with WMD'S?

Nothing but scare tactics and war mongering.  Suprisng that someone isn't made accountable including Bush himself.



....-Gixer

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Gixer

Nothing but scare tactics and war mongering.  Suprisng that someone isn't made accountable including Bush himself.

Gotta hand it to the GOP. The Democrats just don't have the stones for a good old fashioned witch hunt.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Gixer
The question was/is that Iraq was invaded for WMD's which has all proven to be false, not that Sadam was a bad man. What makes you so sure that the situation for Iraqis today and in the future will be any better?



...-Gixer

The question is why was Iraq invaded.

Leftwing-treehugging-whalehumping-vege-eating-lesbian-manhatres jump to the "WMDs must be found to justify the invasion". Of course this is the idiots response based on their non-questioning belief of left wing dictator-loving media.

Read the stuff above... let me point it out for you: "to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons PROGRAMS".

The US never had to find a big pile of WMD's, all they had to do was find programs, which they did.

Of course the left-wing-tards like some found here tend to look at the short term result of the invasion and liberation of Iraq.

Heres what the alternative was:
 - Iraq continues to defy UN Inspectors
 - Iraq develops Bio/Chem/and Nuke programs
 - Iraq keeps using Oil for Food to keep populace in poverty while those in government live in luxury

Then a couple of years down the track Iraq announces it has Nukes, then the scenario looks dangerous for Iran, Israel, or Kuwait. Iraq would most likely start picking a fight with Israel and one could see a nuclear conflict starting very very easily with Iraq drawing Egypt and Syria into the war.

Alternatively the US and UN could have left Iraq and before Iraq completed its programs the Israeli's would have been guaranteed to stick their noses in in some form of pre-emptive strike.

Don't know why you hate the yanks so much Gixer, maybe you need to stop hanging out with vegans.

[Nash]

"Programs" huh?

I'm not exactly a rocket scientist, so somebody help me out here.

How long does it take to go from a "program" to a "mushroom cloud?"

45 minutes, or more than 45 minutes?

[Sandman]

I think the answer depends on whether you're a member of the current administration (or not).

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Vulcan
.The US never had to find a big pile of WMD's, all they had to do was find programs, which they did.

LMAO, errr yes they were did and were expecting too, cripes I'm not going to go over that again. PRIMARY reason for the invasion not programes or intent.

Then a couple of years down the track Iraq announces it has Nukes, then the scenario looks dangerous for Iran, Israel, or Kuwait. Iraq would most likely start picking a fight with Israel and one could see a nuclear conflict starting very very easily with Iraq drawing Egypt and Syria into the war.

That's such BS and just working on the fear tactics and war mongering.

Meanwhile in Iran.. They are busy adding the finishing touches to their 4,000 km range missile and warheads.
Since Iran is obviously far more advanced down this track and a threat to Israel why weren't they invaded instead?

Don't know why you hate the yanks so much Gixer, maybe you need to stop hanging out with vegans.

I don't hate the Yanks I just think their leader is an idiot, who's stupid decisions effect us all.  And wonder how your so easily sucked into Bush admin  propergander as well. You must tape Fox news every night and believe in all that balanced reporting.



...-Gixer

[Vudak]

Didn't bother reading the replies or the whole thread...  But one thing strikes me about this whole Iraq deal...

A bad man is not doing bad things to his people anymore.  Millions of people are free...  Isn't that worth anything?

Then again, why couldn't we just invade Iraq with THAT being the primary objective?  Why does there need to be anymore justification than that?

The problem with politicians is they don't speak from their hearts.

[wombatt]

Originally posted by GScholz
If Iraq was not an imminent threat to the United States of America, then the war was in violation of the UN Charter and thus illegal.

 

You should know by now we don't care what the stinking UN thinks.

[wombatt]

Originally posted by GScholz
Who gets to decide which countries needs ... "purification"?

Do we have the right to force our ways on other people, and if so doesn't that justify others who have done the same?

And finally ... do you really believe that the US government opposed the UN and many influential allies, lied and cheated and finally invaded Iraq because they cared about the poor Iraqis, and wanted to help? If so then I suggest you look in the mirror. I think you might have "Naive, ignorant do-gooder" stamped on your forehead ... curtsey of the US government.

As would most of Europe after world war two thanks to America.
Look I am in agreement with you about the war but maybe for different reasons.

I am glad that Sadam is out of power the world is a better place because of it.
But what I don't like is the fact that so many young American and
allied troops have died for a people that really do not want us there.

I don't know what will happen after the election in Iraq wether it will be any better or not.

I kinda doubt that we will see any change because of Iraqi's killing Iraq's Shiite's Vs the Sunni's Vs the Kurd's.

Until all three of those groups set down and work out some form of government on there own there will never be peace in that country.

So as I see it we at this point are now wasting not only our time there but also our young peoples lives as well.

Hold on let me put on my Nomex suit

[wombatt]

Originally posted by GScholz
As would most of Europe what?

America pumped millions into Europe after the war.
Helped rebuild the economy's of many countries.

Now weather it was to our advantage to do so remains to be seen
but it is undeniable that America help in many ways to rebuild Europe after WW2.

[Staga]

Finland didn't receive a penny from US and we did just well. Same would had happened in other european countries thought maybe a bit slower.

Marshall plan was win/win situation for US; it helped some european countries to rebuilt but it also helped American companies to export their goods to Europe and keep european countries tied to US.
Thinking it was made for just showing good will is... well... naive. Well maybe it fits pretty well to some Americans then

[GreenCloud]

yes..new zealnad...finland and the rest of euro land would of been much bettr off with hilter as daddy...and it wouldnt bother me if you were in concentration camps...
Hell Sadom is a good guy too..

again...

you guys really shoudl of been with the human shields



Im ready to vote..


HAHAHA  get ready for 4 more years..then after that..get ready for another republican president....


and get ready TO DIE!!>.ALL you terrorits supporting states...DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Axis of Evil.....  Call a spade a spade..I love our boy Bush

[Staga]

I'm sure your mom and pop are proud of you  

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Gixer
It was the PRIMARY reason for the invasion of Iraq! Nothing else. And since that has proven to be completely false so are the reasons for being there. Do you really think the other reasons are worth the cost in lives and situation that Iraq is now in? Even Blair wouldn't of followed him on that crusade if that was the case.

When Bush say's "Absolutely" he hardly looks as if he has convniced himself on that one let alone anyone else.

Do you think Bush would of been able to sell the reason for invading Iraq on anything else other then making out that he was a threat to the world and armed with WMD'S?

Nothing but scare tactics and war mongering.  Suprisng that someone isn't made accountable including Bush himself.



....-Gixer

The fact that Saddam was harboring terrorists and had terrorist training camps in Iraq was enough for the US to go in. Bush never said there was a primary reason for going in.

a PRIMARY reason is something other people like you use.