Author Topic: Federal Judges are stupid idiots (Read 2953 times)

DieAz · « **Reply #90 on:** January 15, 2005, 01:07:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Nwbie

Jeez you guys argue about everything lol
NwBie

take you this long to figure that out?

Suave · « **Reply #91 on:** January 15, 2005, 01:18:05 AM »

Schools should teach that god magic is just as real science.

moot · « **Reply #92 on:** January 15, 2005, 02:24:18 AM »

Open and look into an empty drawer and your mind will go blank.

Delirium · « **Reply #93 on:** January 15, 2005, 07:30:11 AM »

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Originally posted by SaburoS
Atheism is not a religion.

In legal terms, it is... its one of the reasons the Pledge is on its way out and is not required to be spoken in its entirety.

Both sides of the religious debate make me sick; both sides want their own way and are willing to throw as much time, money, and frivilous lawsuits at it until they do.

Don't we have enough to worry about besides petty differences?

JB88 · « **Reply #94 on:** January 15, 2005, 07:54:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Delirium
In legal terms, it is... its one of the reasons the Pledge is on its way out and is not required to be spoken in its entirety.

Both sides of the religious debate make me sick; both sides want their own way and are willing to throw as much time, money, and frivilous lawsuits at it until they do.

Don't we have enough to worry about besides petty differences?

most of what we worry about are just that.

Raider179 · « **Reply #95 on:** January 15, 2005, 12:53:49 PM »

Only in Georgia would we have to have a stupid sticker to tell you the Theory of evolution is a theory. Doesnt THEORY in front of evolution spell it out? I have lived in the north and the south and I will tell you this kind of pointless taxpayer money wasting junk is common down here. Seems like every other week someone wants to put the 10 commandments on a judges bench or ban huck finn from libraries and out come the lawsuits. I never understand why people try to subliminaly force their opinions on others. Some of the most "god-faring" people are the same ones who want to force their points of views and ways of life on others and if they dont like it then they are evil or hate god or something.

To me this just shows that religion is losing the fight against science, again, and will eventually have to change what it believes in order to not be contradicted by science. Much like when it was discovered that the earth was not the center of the universe.

sorry for ranting lol

wklink · « **Reply #96 on:** January 15, 2005, 01:14:04 PM »

Spontaneous Generation was once once considered a 'scientific fact'.

The only fact that true scientists ascribe to is that everything is a theory. There are no such things as 'scientific facts', just current beliefs that are either reinforced or later discounted.

The problem I have with the evolutionary theory (and it still is considered a theory) is that there is a group of people that look at it as more dogmatic and as such not up for debate. The same thing was reversed 180 years ago when Darwin came up with his theory of evolution. It was a big scandal and wasn't even considered by many of the great scientific minds of Darwin's time.

Saying it is a theory should have been written in the science book, not as an add on sticker. Everything is a theory, supported or disproved but never a 'fact'.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #97 on:** January 15, 2005, 01:29:35 PM »

the only constant I've seen, that could be atributed to a solid scientific fact is that-
1. every day we continue to learn about our world.
2. every day we learn the exact same thing that we learned yesterday.
3. what we learn each day is- 'what we thought we knew the day before is wrong'

eskimo2 · « **Reply #98 on:** January 15, 2005, 01:30:33 PM »

You know why there are not such heated debates over the scientific theory of gravity, or atomic theory…?

eskimo

J_A_B · « **Reply #99 on:** January 15, 2005, 01:43:33 PM »

"Atheism is not a religion."

Really?

An Atheist believes what he does based solely on faith. An Atheist cannot prove his claim (no god) any more the the followers of any given mainstream religion can.

It might not be a legal religion, but it isn't exactly "nothing", either.

There are Atheist organizations which are determined to eradicate all trace of normal religion from our daily lives, just as some religious extremists seek to impose their way of life upon everybody.

One side is no better than the other.

J_A_B

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #100 on:** January 15, 2005, 02:53:55 PM »

Except for my side.

Suave · « **Reply #101 on:** January 15, 2005, 03:45:54 PM »

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Originally posted by eskimo2
You know why there are not such heated debates over the scientific theory of gravity, or atomic theory…?

eskimo

Werd.

But there used to be. Remember Galileo was imprisoned because he contradicted scripture when he said that the earth orbits the sun.

Religion should stick to dealing with the question of why things are created. A religion that deals with the question of how things are created is mythology.

If we stop teaching and demonstrating bilogical evolution to our children then we better start teaching them mandarin chinese.

moot · « **Reply #102 on:** January 15, 2005, 09:52:39 PM »

Pretty sure most "atheists" I've met, AFAIR, or still know are really just agnostic.

SaburoS · « **Reply #103 on:** January 16, 2005, 12:38:18 AM »

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Originally posted by J_A_B
"Atheism is not a religion."

Really?

An Atheist believes what he does based solely on faith. An Atheist cannot prove his claim (no god) any more the the followers of any given mainstream religion can.

It might not be a legal religion, but it isn't exactly "nothing", either.

There are Atheist organizations which are determined to eradicate all trace of normal religion from our daily lives, just as some religious extremists seek to impose their way of life upon everybody.

One side is no better than the other.

J_A_B

Not even close. Weak argument labeling Atheism as a religion. It is the attempt of the religious right to still introduce Creationism/remove Evolution as a public school subject. It has been the religions that have imposed on those not religious or of those of different beliefs.

1) We don't have houses of worship.
2) We do not worship a supreme being.
3) We don't force you to not believe in God, we're just protecting our rights from the religious imposing their views on us.
4) We don't go around trying to force religions to teach evolution in their schools.
5) We don't go around trying to increase our "flock."

Is it your belief that people of faith in your God is so tenuous that you fear your religion's influence not being everywhere will somehow make people lose their faith?

J_A_B · « **Reply #104 on:** January 16, 2005, 03:03:37 AM »

"Is it your belief that people of faith in your God "

Don't call it "my" God, buddy. I'm more or less agnostic. I don't know the answers to the meaning of life and don't pretend to know. I can see the loony things both sides say with mostly an unbiased opinion.

I consider Atheists religious. That's my own opinion and not necessarily legal fact. I don't like activist Atheists any more than I like fundamentalist Christians. I believe both factions would legislate their ideas into law if given half a chance.

Fortunately they mostly cancel each other out.

J_A_B