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storch

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« Reply #90 on: January 16, 2005, 07:12:58 AM »
good pick vudak.  the guy that put us in hock for 6 generations and gave 1/2 of europe to uncle joe for free.  it took us 40 years set the world (more or less) right after his passing.
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« Reply #91 on: January 16, 2005, 09:45:36 AM »
Because he failed in his ultimate quest, it does not diminish his greatness.
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« Reply #92 on: January 16, 2005, 10:29:24 AM »
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good pick vudak.  the guy that put us in hock for 6 generations and gave 1/2 of europe to uncle joe for free.  it took us 40 years set the world (more or less) right after his passing.


Care to explain this?
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Offline mosca

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« Reply #93 on: January 16, 2005, 10:44:10 AM »
Bill Gates. A bloodless conquering of the world through ideas and economics.



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« Reply #94 on: January 16, 2005, 11:47:53 AM »
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Care to explain this?


guess you don't read much huh?
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Offline allmetal

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« Reply #95 on: January 16, 2005, 11:59:11 AM »
I vote STORCH!:aok
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Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #96 on: January 16, 2005, 12:15:00 PM »
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guess you don't read much huh?


How did he put us in hock?
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Offline Arcon

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« Reply #97 on: January 16, 2005, 12:30:40 PM »
Yes, Mr. Da Vinci was born before any "americans".

If you look at his works, he was truly a genius,

Any he was not trying to make mega bucks.

He is almost an archetype for the modern day scientists.

Of course, he probably would never take the job if it had been around in those days.

As it has been said elsewhere, those most qualified for leadership are the one least likely to accept the position.

As for bill gates: sorry. No soul.

Flame away again....
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Offline Arcon

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« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2005, 12:52:14 PM »
As for presidents, Lincoln gets my vote.

Churchill gets my second vote.

Both had character, Churchill had some personal problems, But was DEFINITELY the man for the time.

Lincoln had more character than all other presidents before and after him, especially considering his upbringing.

Lincoln:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/al16.html

Churchill:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRchurchill.htm

There are other, more informative links.

But still, If Leonardo Da Vinci had any characteristics of a politician (i.e misleading, saying what people want to hear, and generally appeasing the mostly ignorant masses) he would still be the best "american" for the job"

hehe, this outta kick off some debate, if anyone takes the idea of greatest american being the American Leader, i.e the president, seriously.

It just annoys me that our American representative tends to always be of low character. A politician.

If you read the biographies, I think you'll understand what I mean.

Hell, If Lincoln were around, I'd back him up all the way.

As far as the Current greatest american:

I'd have to go with Paris Hilton. or her sister.

Just trying to fit in :)
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« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2005, 12:52:48 PM »
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And you can just rot in jail with DREDIOCK's grandpa, Thomas Jefferson and Hitler!

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« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2005, 01:11:35 PM »
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Nathan Bedford Forrest


Hehe...good choice, although in that genre I woulda said T.J. "Stonewall" Jackson :)

Seriously, I think this question is impossible to answer definitively. There are too many, too much done. The best that can be done is to have a list of "Great Americans", IMO.

Many who qualify have been listed. Many deserve it. I'll add a few who I believe are great due to what they were willing to contribute, yet who I seldom hear mentioned in discussions like this.

Thomas Payne
Nathan Hale
Sequoyah
William Barret Travis
Juan Seguin
Thomas Edison
Alvin York
Jonathan Wainwright
James Doolittle
Tony McAuliffe
Muhammad Ali
Ross Perot

There are many more.

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« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2005, 03:34:33 PM »
Me

Enough Said
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« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2005, 08:59:25 PM »
Joseph Gayetty

I mean, come on, who else cleaned up so much chit?
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« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2005, 09:05:18 PM »
Jimmy Doolittle.
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