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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2005, 07:05:32 PM »
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Chairboy, does X-plane have any Garmins and does it support undocked windows?

Would be nice to have a sim where the GPS is more realistic than FS2004.

X-Plane will output NMEA strings, so you can use any outboard navigation tools you want.  It also has an open interface where you can hook up to to get any data about anything for the plane over UDP.  This makes it straightforward to have it run instrumentation.

It also supports a number of different full-motion simulators out of the box.

Again, I'm not trying to say that X-Plane is straight up better then MSFS, each has their own strengths.  MSFS has better eye candy, ATC, and airport detail.  X-Plane has superior aerodynamics, models complete systems (hydraulics, power, etc), outputs all the airplane data, etc.

After flying in X-Plane, I took flying lessons and my instructor said he could really tell I used a sim because I nailed almost every maneuver immediately.  That was neat.  Everything he's taught me, I've been able to simulate in X-Plane exactly.

Also, I really like how X-Plane does the minutae too.  Here's an example fully modeled startup procedure for a certain jet if you set it to put you in the plane with everything off (note, the default is the same as MSFS, everything running and ready to go).

Battery master on, set APU from OFF to START for a moment, then let it go to ON.  Once the APU is started, bleed air and generator voltage is being supplied to the plane.  Set BLEED AIR to APU, then press the engine start buttons one by one.  Set BLEED AIR to BOTH so you can use the engines to restart each other in flight.  Set APU to OFF.

That, is cool.  And there's all sorts of stuff like that that can be modeled in the sim.  You can fly it right out of the box, but if you're a detail junky, you can do it just like in real life.

There are some commercial package for MSFS, and that's great.  There's over 2,000 free aircraft for X-Plane, but of course, there's varying levels of quality.

Like I said, if I'm looking for something that's pretty, I'll use MSFS.  If I want realistic (to the point where companies use it to test their aircraft virtually or train with), I'll use X-Plane.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2005, 07:07:58 PM »
Does Xplane come 'stock' with any Citation series jets?  500 series? 750?

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2005, 07:09:02 PM »
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Wow....!   Thanks LePaul.   I usually don't buy addon's but I love the 'Starfighter'.   I'm going to have to get that.....


If you ever try X-Plane, there's a free one here:
http://www.x-plane.org/registry/3739.shtml
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2005, 07:11:52 PM »
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Does Xplane come 'stock' with any Citation series jets?  500 series? 750?

I don't remember what comes stock, but there's a free 560 for download:

http://www.x-plane.org/registry/5123.shtml - Citation V
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2005, 07:54:11 PM »
So I assume you work for the Public Relations Division of X-Plane?  :p

...couldnt resist !

Does it support TrackIR?

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2005, 07:57:26 PM »
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Chairboy, does X-plane have any Garmins and does it support undocked windows?

Would be nice to have a sim where the GPS is more realistic than FS2004.



It does, been out for ages.

http://www.reality-xp.com/



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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2005, 07:59:03 PM »
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So I assume you work for the Public Relations Division of X-Plane?  :p

...couldnt resist !

Does it support TrackIR?

Heh, not quite.  Just an admirer of good work.  The new version has integrated 3D cockpits and supports trackir, I think, but there's also a free program to integrate trackir if not:

http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/games/xplane.html

Here's a video of that program:
http://media.naturalpoint.com/video/games/XCockpit_beta1_v2.wmv
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2005, 07:59:25 PM »
That F-104 is a few versions back (for XPlane)

Nice site tho, found the ver 8 planes...Mr Barry Leger makes some nice planes for that program.

http://www.x-plane.org/registry/117_Military.shtml

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2005, 07:59:55 PM »
Chairboy,

If your looking for realistic I'd suggest you check out http://www.panelshop.com or http://www.precisionmanuals.com alot more then just pretty.



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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2005, 08:03:27 PM »
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Chairboy,

If your looking for realistic I'd suggest you check out http://www.panelshop.com or http://www.precisionmanuals.com alot more then just pretty.

Absolutely, if you spend some real money, you can get the planes and dashes in MSFS, no argument.  Personally, I think it's great that you get all that with purchase for X-Plane, including aircraft editors, terrain editors, etc.  

Of interest, Scaled Composites (Burt Rutan's company) used X-Plane to simulate the SpaceShipOne/WhiteKnight and also used it to train the pilots on the whole flight regime.  That's a pretty good endorsement.
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