Author Topic: Assassinate Hitler? (Read 1575 times)

SOB · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2005, 03:30:22 PM »

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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
Boroda, are you being funny on purpose?

No, now just walk away or he'll report you to the kommisar!

JB88 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 22, 2005, 04:24:32 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I wouldn't. If you assassinate Hitler, things would play out completely differently.

The moment the bullet kills hitler, there's a good chance you would blink out of existance.

true, but he said to avoid time travel paradoxes, so would you if this werent the case?

myself? i would assasinate dean of the art school that turned him down for training. he couldnt draw people but he may have turned out to have been on hell of a post modern - deconstructionist had they gotten him out of landscape mode.

vorticon · « **Reply #17 on:** January 22, 2005, 09:30:14 PM »

id find his grandmother and shoot her.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2005, 10:36:22 PM »

Well, Hitler was actually a handsomehunk. If you don't assassinate him intime, someone far smarter and far brighter might have been in control of the whole thing.

The only reason germany lost was because Hitler was as dumb as a rock.

vorticon · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2005, 10:43:45 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
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The only reason germany lost was because Hitler was as dumb as a rock. [/B]

funny, i thought it was because the germans were always looking the other way, and hand grenades more powerfull than howitzer shells...

you dont get to be leader of a country by being du...never mind

Octavius · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2005, 10:44:10 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Well, Hitler was actually a handsomehunk. If you don't assassinate him intime, someone far smarter and far brighter might have been in control of the whole thing.

The only reason germany lost was because Hitler was as dumb as a rock.

I like to think the 'far smarter and far brighter' crowd are open to many other things outside of ruling the ignorant or world domination. People like Art Clark, Einstein, Carrot top...

spitfiremkv · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2005, 11:56:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Because Communists were probably the most organised opposition to the regime. You can't overerestimate the role of Communists in anti-nazi underground.

ok.Tonight I am in the mood to play Harry Turtledove. Let's say Hitler was just a bit more lenient and didn't ban the commies. They either take power (not likely), or stay as one powerful opposition. Naturally Hitler would not want to upset them too much, for fear of civil unrest, and so he would stay in good relations with USSR. Not having to attack them, he would not divert his resources to the east, and would manage to conquer England and probably North Africa. The US would not be able to defeat Germany and Japan combined, and most likely it would be attacked by the Soviets as well.
US and their (only) ally Canada will soo be overwhelmed.
Badaboom!
FF a decade and the entire world looks like something out of "1984"

Fishu · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2005, 12:34:44 AM »

Theres possibility that germany would've become communistic, if done early and that would've meant at least half of the europe becoming communistic in that case.
Stalin would've annexed baltic countries, including poland and had much easier time at the finnish front. Conquering Finland would've probably meant the same for swedes and danes, maybe also for Norway.
Without a doubt Stalin would want to secure the Baltic sea.
No idea what would've happened with Italy.

Glasses · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2005, 02:31:03 AM »

Wasn't this answered in Command and Conquer Red Alert?

genozaur · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2005, 02:39:50 AM »

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Originally posted by patrone
I really thing that you underestimate Hitler as a factor keeping the country in order, his ability to make speaches etc,etc.
This country was formed in ranks behind him and his thoughts of creating the third riche.

The assasination would have been done in a earlier phase, somewhere around 1935-36. maybe even erlier, to let a new leader fit into the "clothes". Who that would be, for sure not Goring and not Hess, not Himmler, maybe the Sadistic Goebbles could have filled that role.

The rebuilding of germanys military ability was not really a "nazi" doing. It had been done in secret with the help from Soviet (training pilots) Holland (bulding and training Submarines), Sweden ( constructing artillery at bofors) Switzerland (machineguns) long before Hitler came to power.

Given enough time, and by waiting 3-4 more years in starting the war, would have made Germany a real dangerous enemy to the whole world.

But, many of the achivements done by germany technicaly, was done as result of the war, dont forget this.

And to agree with Boroda, better if he never was born at all

The Red Army also taught German tank men, including Manstein.

Schaden · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2005, 02:48:13 AM »

Two interesting points, Hitler encouraged the Final Solution but I don't recall anyone finding evidence of him signing off on orders - having said that the people who did develop the idea at Wannsee did so with the intent of pleasing Hitler - ie they wanted to do what Hitler wanted without orders - I don't think killing Hitler during the war would have any effect on the Holocaust.

2nd point which I have read a number of times was that there was talk of killing Hitler - however by the end of 1942 Hitler was making such erratic decisions - North Africa, Stalingrad et al that he caused more damage to the German war effort by being alive rather than being dead.

Wotan · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2005, 02:54:41 AM »

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Hitler encouraged the Final Solution but I don't recall anyone finding evidence of him signing off on orders - having said that the people who did develop the idea at Wannsee did so with the intent of pleasing Hitler

Thats statement is wrong. There's no need to turnt he AH board into a Holocaust discussion forum. The thread would get locked in 10 sec.

But here is a link to the Axis History Forum's Holocaust & 20th Century War Crimes forum.

It's a research forum and will find anything you want to know. Use the 'Search' feature frequently and you can educate yourself.

genozaur · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2005, 03:05:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
No spitfiremkv he's still brainwashed no matter how unbelievable that sounds. It's a fact.

Guys, YOU ARE so pathetically brainwashed that there are no brains left.
The good thing - you don't even know it.

Schaden · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2005, 03:45:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Wotan
Thats statement is wrong. There's no need to turnt he AH board into a Holocaust discussion forum. The thread would get locked in 10 sec.

But here is a link to the Axis History Forum's Holocaust & 20th Century War Crimes forum.

It's a research forum and will find anything you want to know. Use the 'Search' feature frequently and you can educate yourself.

Talk about brainwashed I was not implying that Hitler was not the cause of the Holocaust, he just wasn't the one who put the nuts and bolts of the plan together and I don't think he ever signed orders to that effect - he probably gave verbal orders but did not incriminate himself - Goring actually did.

Go and be a ******** somewhere else.

Russian · « **Reply #29 on:** January 23, 2005, 04:14:10 AM »

No. We (human race) learns on our own mistakes. If we would not learn lesson back then, it would be 100 times worse in future.