I'm pretty surprised none posted about Auschwitz

[maxxius]

Originally posted by Gixer
Think it's amazing that the place is preserved as it was. Even just the photos look pretty chillling couldn't imagine what it would be like to visit in person.





...-Gixer

been there was raized not too far from there............deadly place:(also my grandmother escaped  from a work camp there she was to be executed for placing sand in ammo shells.. she manged to get away hid in a tomb for 11 days with no water and food .she was found by a russian on day 3..... he was goin to give her up to the germans ...... he didint make it....... grand ma took him out.....

its amazing what a person will do to peserve theyr life...

[beet1e]

Originally posted by straffo
Je pense que c'est jeter unitilement de l'huile sur le feu

Peut être que tu as raison, mon ami, mais on devait le dire.

[Wotan]

Thank for the link I think I'll learn a lot on the Axis BBS., not that I'm ignorant but any way to learn and remember is good for me.

I didn't mean to imply you are ignorant (at least no more then the rest of us) but I imagine most ordinary folks are like myself. We have heard of Auschwitz and the Holocaust but only have a limited understanding of what it really was.

For instance, I am sure you have heard of Treblinka. Did you know that around 30 SS guards and 120 or so Ukrainians that around 900,000 persons were murdered in Treblinka during '42 alone? The current (I use 'current' because over time more research is uncovering more data) estimations for the murdered at Auschwitz range from 1.1 to 1.5 million. That's over the life span of the camp.

That would not be a 'Ami bash' would it?

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I was specific in my criticism:

little Ami nationalist

Do you consider all Americans 'little Ami nationalist'? Or are you guessing that I do? Do you include yourself in that?

What ever your answers that is all on you. I would guess most anyone else who can read properly understand who I meant by that statement.

As for observing anniversaries, while I do not forget the shoah, I would rather observe Mozart's 249th. I have better dreams.

I don't think the original posteris attempting to shame folks into remebering the liberation of Auschwitz. There's already enough fake emotion and the like on these forums. I think he was just a bit surprised to find no mention of it.

[Habu]

Originally posted by Momus--
Anti-semitism was an almost unknown phenomenon in the Arab world until the US and Europe opened the zionist floodgates in Palestine. Up until then, it had been almost exclusively confined to so-called Christian nations. If the Arabs are indeed hoping for a second run, we have to ask ourselves what caused their centuries-old attitude to change.

Momus you are brilliant! The Germans had never performed mass extermination before WW2. But something "caused their centuries-old attitude to change." I am sure you cannot blame them then for their actions.

The victum always deserves what he gets in one way or the other. Right?

Why don't you take a day off work stay home and reflect on your attitudes. Really. If you believe what you are posting you are in serious trouble man.

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Habu
Momus you are brilliant! The Germans had never performed mass extermination before WW2. But something "caused their centuries-old attitude to change." I am sure you cannot blame them then for their actions.

The victum always deserves what he gets in one way or the other. Right?

Why don't you take a day off work stay home and reflect on your attitudes. Really. If you believe what you are posting you are in serious trouble man.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong point is it?

[Habu]

I am sure my reading comprehension is just fine. Your point was very plain to see.

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Habu
I am sure my reading comprehension is just fine. Your point was very plain to see.

Momus you are brilliant! The Germans had never performed mass extermination before WW2. But something "caused their centuries-old attitude to change." I am sure you cannot blame them then for their actions.

That doesn't relate at all to anything I posted at all as far as I can see.

[Habu]

No you did not directly say that. But then again sarcasm is usually not a direct quote of something someone said.

I was merely extending  your logic to show that applied to the Germans in WW2 it is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as your implication that the Arabs are Anti Semitic because they were made that way by the West.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by SLO
remembering the slaughter of Jews is important...

NEVER AGAIN WE SAID...

then Rwanda happened...

2 faced moronic freaks

You forgot about Armenia.   Shame on you.

Karaya

[Momus--]

Originally posted by Habu
No you did not directly say that. But then again sarcasm is usually not a direct quote of something someone said.

I was merely extending  your logic to show that applied to the Germans in WW2 it is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as your implication that the Arabs are Anti Semitic because they were made that way by the West.

That's a lovely straw man you're constructed there. Any inferred reference to Germany is in your own head.

Is it the suggestion that pre-Zionism arabs had no history of anti-semitism that offends you? Or perhaps you have a problem with the assertion that Zionism was largely supported by Britain and the USA with little concern for Arab opinion? If this on the basis of factual inaccuracy then please feel free to correct me. However, if it is on the basis of cognitive disonance on your part, then you're on your own, I can't help.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by lada
aaaahh typical brainwashed lame with out clue.

The only one thing that Germany mention about this is, that they are very sorry for that and they all the time stress that this can not be forgoten.

Would you be so kind and post some links, where german claim, that it should be forgoten ?

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=52&story_id=16082&name=Schroeder+backs+ban+for+rightists+over+Holocaust+comments
http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/27Jan2005_news36.php

lol, I am sure they are sorry.  And you are right, I have been brain washed by some of their victims that escaped.  However, did you ever think what exactly are they sorry about?   How sorry would they be if that war had been won by them?  Ask the US how sorry they are about the Indians.  As sorry as the Germans would have been had they won that war.  

It's like a serial killer that gets cought and tells the judge he is sory and need help.  Sorry he got cought.  He is sos sorry that he could not stop the killing.  

You are from Poland right?  You do realize you were going to be next on their list?  Then again, I could be just brain wassed and clueless.

[lada]

Originally posted by dedalos


It's like a serial killer that gets cought and tells the judge he is sory and need help.  Sorry he got cought.  He is sos sorry that he could not stop the killing.  

You are from Poland right?  You do realize you were going to be next on their list?  Then again, I could be just brain wassed and clueless.

Well i dont think that its like an serial killer.
Serial killer commited crime personaly. Contemporary germany has nothing to do with people who were involved 67 years ago.

The true reason why they expose their feeling is that they dont want to stay away from others. They want to be part of this world.
Im not from Poland. Our o****ry were donated to hitler after Austria.
Im from that small country whitch has been given to Hitler by its ally [UK and other] and after WW2 it has been given to Stalin for his participation in WW2 by man who critized that Chamberlein for passing us  to Hitler.

Shall hate Brits or German for what they have done ?

[beet1e]

LOL the typo above.

[Skydancer]

Sorry but I kind of agree with momus.

The holocaust was a crime of epic proportions and utterly inexcusable.

I find it slightly offensive though that a people that have suffered so, can suddenly forget or find excuses for the fact that in what became Israel, Palistinian people were forcibly removed from their homes, confined to what have now become largely ghettos and have been masssacred in refugee camps. ( we call that ethnic cleansing when it happens in Europe )

I just don't understand it. nothing excuses violence and bloodshed like we see on or TV's from any side. But please can't all of us face up to the wrongs that were done in our name and learn from them and condemn them whatever.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by lada
Well i dont think that its like an serial killer.
Serial killer commited crime personaly. Contemporary germany has nothing to do with people who were involved 67 years ago.

The true reason why they expose their feeling is that they dont want to stay away from others. They want to be part of this world.
Im not from Poland. Our o****ry were donated to hitler after Austria.
Im from that small country whitch has been given to Hitler by its ally [UK and other] and after WW2 it has been given to Stalin for his participation in WW2 by man who critized that Chamberlein for passing us  to Hitler.

Shall hate Brits or German for what they have done ?

Sorry about getting your country wrong.  
Don't hate anyone.  Just don't forget because all theses nice people, given a chance, will do it again.  Remember so you can see the singns of it and stop it before it happens.

As far as contemporary Germans having noting to do with the people involved, well I know that.  However, some of the sorry I was tricked by the creazy man Germans are still alive.  They have a lot to do with what happened.  

You know, I maybe clueless and brain washed, but it takes a special kind of person to shoot an old woman in the back of the head cause she did not move fast enough.  Greece was occupided by both Italian and German forces.  The difference was that the Italians would give food and what ever medicin they happen to have to the starving and sick kidds.  The Germans would just kick them or shoot them.  They were both following a creazy man but some how they were not the same.

I guess I am having an issue with the "I am sorry, lets put it behind us while we critisize everyone else" attitude.