Author Topic: Herstal FN Five-SeveN for the US police force? (Read 1546 times)

Saintaw · « **on:** January 31, 2005, 07:00:06 AM »

Just saw this note on the local paper, US police have placed an order for these to replace the current handguns (I suppose those are Berettas?)

I'm looking forward to try one in April.

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Nilsen · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2005, 07:19:13 AM »

lazs?

Suave · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2005, 07:32:44 AM »

there is no US police force

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2005, 07:32:57 AM »

That looks kind of odd for a handgun design. Odd trigger guard, and looks to be a very larg hand grip. And looks to be a ugly knockoff of a glock..

Saintaw · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2005, 07:34:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Suave
there is no US police force

Yes yes yes... ok, but if you use a little international immagination, I am sure you know what I mean. or are you still fed with a spoon ?

Suave · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2005, 07:47:06 AM »

Well Laz probably would've said the same thing I did.

What city's police dept ? Link didn't work for me.
Personally If my life depended on it I would rather carry a revolver. Automatics are only as reliable as the ammo that's in it.

I'm not too impressed with the 5.7, you want a pistol to have stopping power, not penetrating power.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2005, 07:50:40 AM »

Not purchased for a city police force... FBI or ATF or Customs, or some other group of Feds.

Suave · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:08:34 AM »

I've never seen a cop carrying a barreta. Cops can carry their personaly owned weapon. Mostly I see glocks, 1911s, and SW revolvers.

Saintaw · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:17:43 AM »

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...En réalité, le Five SeveN est la version pistolet de la très célèbre arme automatique, le P 90. Le nouveau joujou de Herstal est destiné aux Etats-Unis, où la police fédérale a passé commande pour ses agents. Il apparaît en effet que le Five-SeveN est déjà immergé dans le milieu...

Yes, it looks like the FBI (Federal police?).
Main point seems to be that the bullets will go through bullet proof vests. I thought this was an ammunition feature, not a gun feature.

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:18:36 AM »

the trigger guard is european style. They worry about using the gun with gloves on there. The feds have a history of jumping into untested and mostly worthless pistol designs.

I think that If I had to use a bottleneck cartridge it would be a .357 sig. That round looks like it was designed specificly to penetrate soft armor and kill as many bystanders as possible.

lazs

Toad · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:25:04 AM »

I personally know some folks high up in the US government's protection forces that are using this:

They seem to like the round for making people change their minds about doing bad things. Of course, it could be the ROF instead of the round itself.

Suave · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:26:38 AM »

Yep, looks like they tried to come up with a rifle cartridge that would fit in a pistol.

One of the selling points of that round is that it can defeat a kevlar helmet. I guess that's good if you're at war with the USA or the cylons.

Suave · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:31:09 AM »

While we're on the subject of firearms. I was checking out a website about silencers. It turns out that they're legal to own and use in most states.

Now I think I'm going to get one of those ruger 10/22 rifles with the integral silencer. Ya know for hunting rodents.. at night.. on my neigbors rabit farm.

Toad · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:37:18 AM »

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This round also generates a flat trajectory, enhancing accuracy and allowing a high hit ratio out to 200 meters.

The 5.7 x 28mm will penetrate soft body armor up to Level IIIA. The full metal jacket (FMJ) bullet is designed to be stable during flight, but goes “base over nose” inside the target, greatly improving terminal ballistics (target incapacitation) and avoids overpenetration.

The 5.7 x 28mm can also be ordered in subsonic loads, training rounds, nonexpanding, hollow points, and tracers.

It could be a real good pistol round, if this stuff is true.

Saintaw · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2005, 08:46:24 AM »

It is based on the FN P90 indeed. (reading from the fn website: http://www.fnherstal.com/ ... they sure have some nice toys)