Yeow, the P-38J is a genuine climber!

[OIO]

I thought you had pulled straight up widewing... what angle of climb did you maintain as he closed in and as you left him behind?


also, I have not played AH since a few weeks before AH2 was launched.. im finding the new 38L to be drastically inferior in manouvering than the old 38L.

The snap-turn ability is gone (cloverleafing now impossible for me *sigh*). This pretty much negates my ability to sciscor anything but another 38.

Fuel burn was increased? wasnt it 1.5x back then? its now 2x. I find it very hard to cruise the same distances i did before.. i have to take 1 DT just to be able to fly 1 sector away climbing to 15k'ish and have fuel to fight and rtb the sector back.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by OIO
I thought you had pulled straight up widewing... what angle of climb did you maintain as he closed in and as you left him behind?


also, I have not played AH since a few weeks before AH2 was launched.. im finding the new 38L to be drastically inferior in manouvering than the old 38L.

The snap-turn ability is gone (cloverleafing now impossible for me *sigh*). This pretty much negates my ability to sciscor anything but another 38.

Fuel burn was increased? wasnt it 1.5x back then? its now 2x. I find it very hard to cruise the same distances i did before.. i have to take 1 DT just to be able to fly 1 sector away climbing to 15k'ish and have fuel to fight and rtb the sector back.

I was climbing at about 170 mph. However, even in auto-climb (about 200 mph), the P-38J leaves the La-7 behind above 5k.

I didn't find a difference beyond an improvement in E retention. That, more than anything would reduce instantaneous turn rate.

The other evening, I flew a P-38J up to 30k to intercept B-24s. I killed two of them, but with just 188 mg rounds remaining, I headed for a nearby base to rearm. On the way I ran into a Knit Dora at about 25k. Without dive flaps, I had to spiral down with throttle at idle and full left rudder to avoid getting into compressibility. Nonetheless, the new flight model is much better than the old one in this regard as once I was below 15k, I never had any speed related issues as we did with AH1. The Dora died, my 188 rounds doing damage and a Ki-84 finished it off.

Yeah, fuel burn was bumped up to 2.0 to encourage fuel management. Like you, I take one drop tank and 50% internal for most sorties. I'll keep the tank as long as possible. Since the P-38G carries 110 gallons less internally than the J or L, I usually take 75% and a single drop tank. Fuel weight is about the same as the J and L.

My regards,

Widewing

[OIO]

Thnx for answer

"I didn't find a difference beyond an improvement in E retention. That, more than anything would reduce instantaneous turn rate. "

In AH1 i could be flying at 350mph or so, get jumped by a con and be able to bank and pull hard up on the stick and turn at least 35 to 40 degrees in a snap with little e-loss, after that the plane 'slowed' down since it became a sustained turn. In AH2 im just shocked that i bank and pull hard up even after im just flying straight and level and the plane just doesnt snap-turn. It turns those 35 to 40 degrees as if it was a sustained turn. ive tried it at 400mph, at 350, at 300, at 250, at 200mph.. same thing. the snap turn is just...gone.

I dunno its more like.. like if the 38L didnt have the hydraulic controls on the elevators.

[Murdr]

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[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by OIO
Thnx for answer

"I didn't find a difference beyond an improvement in E retention. That, more than anything would reduce instantaneous turn rate. "

In AH1 i could be flying at 350mph or so, get jumped by a con and be able to bank and pull hard up on the stick and turn at least 35 to 40 degrees in a snap with little e-loss, after that the plane 'slowed' down since it became a sustained turn. In AH2 im just shocked that i bank and pull hard up even after im just flying straight and level and the plane just doesnt snap-turn. It turns those 35 to 40 degrees as if it was a sustained turn. ive tried it at 400mph, at 350, at 300, at 250, at 200mph.. same thing. the snap turn is just...gone.

I dunno its more like.. like if the 38L didnt have the hydraulic controls on the elevators.

Oh lord, now you actually lose E quickly in a hard break turn! The shock!!!! The horror!!! The outrage!!!

[OIO]

actually grun, id care less if I lost E in such a turn. what im saying is that the 38L now cant bank and pull nose up to turn about 30 to 40 degrees in a snap. 38 pilots used that to do cloverleaf turns...and in AH1 you could..now i cant do it. 300mph straight and level, bank and pull nose up hard.. it wont snap the nose to 30 or 40 degrees.. itl 'snap' to about 15 or so degrees then behave like a sustained turn.