Author Topic: Nashwan (Read 731 times)

beet1e · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2005, 04:20:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Rasker
A hand in the pocket (if done in a meaningful manner) can make it an armed robbery in the USA.

After I shot off Lazs's .44 magnum, I kept getting arrested for armed robbery - and I didn't even have a gun - or even a hand in my pocket.

Lazs -

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your examples show us what will happen to us if we don't fight.

That's what they want you to think. Your indoctrination is complete!

Curval - LOL!

lazs2 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2005, 04:40:25 PM »

what who want's me to think and.... why would anyone want to "indocrinate" me to do something that I allready naturally do? Why would anyone want to "indocrtinate" me into keeping my rights?

And curval... wasn't it Lotts son who was pretending to be someone else and giving his dad good reviews? You made it sound like it was him who did it... not quite the same is it?

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2005, 04:45:28 PM »

and... I have allways liked your sig... it really says a lot about you and nashwan..

"What I find funny is some Americans claiming Britain's 68 gun murders last year prove gun control doesn't work, but America's 10,000 gun murders a year prove more guns = less crime." - Nashwan "

if you have 68 gun murders before draconian gun bans and then 68 murders after (but increases in other types of crime)... it's not really doing much. If Homicides in the states drop when citizens are allowed to carry concealled then more guns does equal less crime. Or at least it does in America.

The only real way to prove it would be to allow British citizens the right to carry concealled and see how your crime rates looked in a few years.

lazs

john9001 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2005, 04:45:55 PM »

people have the right to protect themselves, no govt should be able to take that away from them.

thank god i was born in the USA.

Yeager · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2005, 05:04:15 PM »

UK has been taken over by commies!

beet1e · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2005, 05:24:36 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
and... I have allways liked your sig... it really says a lot about you and nashwan..

I haven't always had that sig. But if you don't like it, I can always change it back to this...

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America’s constitutional right to bear arms is an anachronism dating back to the 18th century. In modern times, it is an unmitigated disaster which has given rise to many millions of privately owned guns and an alarming homicide rate, with a tally of more than 300,000 firearms related homicides in the past 25 years. While no law can be 100% effective, Britain has no “gun culture”, and much stricter firearms controls which have contained the annual tally of gun related homicides to a double digit value - fewer than one fiftieth of the American gun-related homicide rate per 100,000 population.

beet1e · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2005, 05:26:33 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001
thank god i was born in the USA.

...where your chances of being shot are at least twice as high as they would be in Britain.

beet1e · « **Reply #22 on:** February 05, 2005, 05:28:47 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
And curval... wasn't it Lotts son who was pretending to be someone else and giving his dad good reviews?

Well it couldn't be his wife - she turned into a pillar of salt!

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America’s constitutional right to bear arms is an anachronism dating back to the 18th century. In modern times, it is an unmitigated disaster which has given rise to many millions of privately owned guns and an alarming homicide rate, with a tally of more than 300,000 firearms related homicides in the past 25 years. While no law can be 100% effective, Britain has no “gun culture”, and much stricter firearms controls which have contained the annual tally of gun related homicides to a double digit value - fewer than one fiftieth of the American gun-related homicide rate per 100,000 population.

Yeager · « **Reply #23 on:** February 05, 2005, 05:59:22 PM »

Ive been shot a total of three times. Twice just this last week. Most folks in my town have been shot at least once. Not a day goes by that I dont see someone clawing themselves up off the ground after having taken a shot to the chest. It really has become such a way of life most folks dont even flinch when a shot goes off. Even our youngsters here have formed a playground militia, and the goal is to shoot first ask questions later. I love guns.

Curval · « **Reply #24 on:** February 05, 2005, 06:09:27 PM »

"the one thing I notice about "statistics" in england is that they never have anything to do with reality... seems you guys make em suit whatever conclussion you want.. "

In light of this sweeping generalisation about English statistics does it really matter whether it was his son or him?

What about this?

lazs2 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2005, 10:43:15 AM »

that the best you can do curval? "allmost certainly" it says... "could be pretending" it says... NAS what a laugh... do a serch on this group if you want to see fraudulent and missleading info... they are tools. Lotts methods and the critics of them are examined in his latter book. Even giving the critics the widest possible margin of error...

In the U.S. more guns = less crime.

I don't know why you want to see it differently... why are you so interested in U.S. gun ownership curval... It smacks of someone doing the sour grapes thing... you have no gun rights so you try to take away others..... or, perhaps you are just womanly and truly believe "it is for our own good"? Why are you so quick to jump in to every thread about guns with nashwan (who seems obsessed even tho he lives where there is no danger of the gun culture spredding).

Really... why are you guys so obsessed? You aren't in a possition to have to defend your right to take away others rights in your own little countries.... Why is gun ownership and freedom in the U.S. so threatening to you?

Every gun thread... you guys jump in to try to prove that we would be better off neutered like you guys. Do you really think you have convinced anyone that they are better off having their goverment take away their right to defend themselves?

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #26 on:** February 06, 2005, 11:27:28 AM »

The title of this thread is "Naswan" and posted by Beet1e.

YOU are the one butting in here lazs with your sweeping generalisations about British stats. I simply pointed out that you are the pot calling the kettle black.

You claim, as a point of fact, that it was Lott's son who posted those reviews. Who actually said that? I think you will find it was Lott himself. Therefore in your mind that is fact.

LOL.

beet1e · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2005, 12:52:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Ive been shot a total of three times. Twice just this last week. Most folks in my town have been shot at least once. Not a day goes by that I dont see someone clawing themselves up off the ground after having taken a shot to the chest.

Oh right! I know who you are. You live in Delos. Bet you've also had acid thrown in your face and been set on fire with a mediaeval fire torch!

Replicant · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2005, 01:10:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Nashwan
In 1996 there were 141,900 firearms certificates on issue in England and Wales, covering 418,300 firearms, and 638,000 shotgun certificates covering 1,335,000 shotguns.

There were approx 20 - 21 million households.

Watch out for the rather flexible definition of "firearms". West Midlands police said 55% of all "firearms" handed in to them during the amnesty were blank firers, and I'd expect a lot more to be bb guns, antiques, airguns etc.

Very true, many 'firearms' handed in consisted anything that resembled a gun whether it was a replica, air-rifle, or the genuine article.

Replicant · « **Reply #29 on:** February 06, 2005, 01:13:29 PM »

For those that say 'gun control' doesn't work in the UK, you really think legalising guns would work? No, I don't think so.