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Offline mora

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2005, 02:24:19 PM »
LOL, I guess you'd be better of not buing anything, ever.

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2005, 02:27:14 PM »
OIO you in CA by any chance?

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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2005, 02:31:05 PM »
"What did they give you for your trade ins? Was that applied to the purchase price of the new one? Where is the money? From what you wrote, I can’t tell."

No the trade-in value of our old cars went into my dad's new car since the prius wasnt in the lot back then.

I payed $500 from my bank account to them as deposit for the prius.

"Take your 25K and buy a new Mustang GT instead...."

The whole point of buying the prius is for long term money saving in fuel. And I admit I like the Prius. Im not a muscle car person, for me a car is a tool not a statement.

"They can't honor your contract, if they don't have the vehicle. It doesn't SEEM like they are trying to "screw" you on this deal."

Err the whole point is they DO have the car they just want me to pay a lot more than what I agreed and signed on.

Besides, what happens when a company wont honor a contract (they CAN honor they just dont want to, the car is avaliable).

See, i cant understand how its legal to take my money and sign a contract with me and then just say 'sorry heres your 500 bucks back, get lost' . Like I said, if it was ME saying i wouldnt wait any more and said i was calling the thing off, they WOULD keep my 500 dollars.

to above poster: no im in florida.

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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2005, 02:34:00 PM »
A buddy of mine in LA had some touble with his Hummer dealership, so he torched the place and blamed it on the Earth Liberation Front.



He got away with it but his Hummer 2 is still a lemon... so I guess that wasn't a good strategy.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2005, 02:35:24 PM »
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"Take your 25K and buy a new Mustang GT instead...."

The whole point of buying the prius is for long term money saving in fuel. And I admit I like the Prius. Im not a muscle car person, for me a car is a tool not a statement.



If saving money is your thing then buy a $15,000 Civic because it will take you decades to save up $10,000 in fuel.  So your choice of the Prius is definetly a statement...

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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2005, 02:37:22 PM »
check the contract carefully and see if it entitled you to a particular car, or just a car in general with all kinds of disclaimers.  If the former you have a good claim, if the latter you have no claim.  I say take your $500 and run like the wind.

FYI, the dealership may be violating FL law by using unfair business practices, many lawyers will take these cases on a contingency basis--at least in CA--try around you might find a lwyer in your area that deals with these cases.

Also, call your local TV station or radio station on their "call for action line" or whatnot and see if they can shine some light on these rats.

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2005, 02:57:21 PM »
grun, the money saving comes not in overall price of the car but in the money that i pay per month. A civic would cost me about 360 bucks a month, the prius 385.

and based on mile per gallon ratings, id gas the prius half the times as the civic per month.

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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2005, 03:15:19 PM »
Well, I've been in the car business since 1986, and in management since 1988.

And, about an hour ago, my sister called me from a Toyota dealership in Chicago (1200 miles away) with almost the exact same story; the Prius they've waited a year for is here, but the price is $420 higher. Their buyers order says "'05" on it, though. The manager told her that the salesman mistakenly priced it up as an '04.

And, they are trying to steal her trade, offering her $1500 less than it's worth (it NADA wholesales at $18000, but in the real world it's worth $16500, and they're offering her $15000).

I advised her that a signed contract is exactly that, but the mistake could be real and that she might want the car enough to accept it. And that the dealership is going to deliver that car to her or to someone else, it doesn't matter to them. And if they don't offer her $16500 for the trade, she can always retail it for $18000.

So, does she want the car bad enough to take a $420 screwing? I'd walk, but another guy might not.

Priuses are false economy anyhow; you can never make up in fuel savings what you paid extra in up front costs. She should buy something else, a Subaru Legacy or something like that.


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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2005, 03:52:17 PM »
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grun, the money saving comes not in overall price of the car but in the money that i pay per month. A civic would cost me about 360 bucks a month, the prius 385.

and based on mile per gallon ratings, id gas the prius half the times as the civic per month.


But you are paying  maybe $5,000 to $8,000 extra right now upfront to save $25 per month on gas..

Lets just say that your Prius is only $5,000 more expensive than a Civic, at that rate it will take you 17 years to make up the cost in fuel.

Also how much more is your monthy pqayment to finace that 5,000 to 8,000 premim for the Prius, you must account that into your supposed monthly gas savings...

You are obviously have not though this through if your intent is to lower your total car ownership costs...

Do the math and you will see it makes no sense financially.

The Prius is a status and statement vehicle, simple as that.

Buy a Civic sedan and save a ton of money while still driving a very comfortable, well built, safe, fuel efficent and environmentally friendly compact vehicle.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2005, 04:04:07 PM »
Not a lawyer but sounds to me like the dealership is in breech of contract.

Trouble is you will need a lawyer to sort it out and that will cost you alot more than $500.
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2005, 04:04:07 PM »
thnx for insight Tom.

In my case they trying to screw me 750 bucks over what i agreed for just because they could not deliver the vehicle in time. I can understand its not their fault, but its not my fault either and they were very happy to take my money a year ago as the deal was closed.

Since you in management and stuff in that industry maybe you can answer this:

if the dealership decides to simply force me to take my money back, who can I talk to (i mean like gov. agency or anyone in particular in the toyota co...not a lawyer hehe) to help me make them honor their signed agreement?

I find it very unsettling that a company can just break a signed agreement because they feel like it. The car is there, they've had my money for over a year and i was lied to at the time it was signed when i was told it would be a 4 month wait.

When the 4 months were up and they called me to say it would take more for the vehicle to arrive I did ask about a refund of my deposit if i were to go for another car... and i was told if i cancelled the order id lose my $500 (but now they singing a different tune).

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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2005, 04:15:53 PM »
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I worked at a car dealership for 6 weeks. They are all scum; lying cheating selfish scum.


I've been selling cars for a dealership for 2 years, there's no more lying cheating scum working here than any other job I've ever had.  6 weeks huh? Nice effort...

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2005, 04:18:11 PM »
Contact your State Attorney General's office and Bureau of Consumer Affairs.
Forget about the Better Business Bureau as they've become a commercial operation and aren't really looking out for the consumer like they used to.
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2005, 04:21:03 PM »
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Not a lawyer but sounds to me like the dealership is in breech of contract.

Trouble is you will need a lawyer to sort it out and that will cost you alot more than $500.


well, heres something that just occurred to me.  

you could always go the small claims route.

the award wont be much, but they will be required to show up and answer for it.  if you got your head lined up on it just right, you could probably get it back and put a small dent in thier reputation...enough that they might reconsder doing it to someone else.

wont make a profit, but thats not really what it is about now is it?

worst case?  you lose the small filing fee and an afternoon off of work.

sounds like a fun little scrap if you ask me.

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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2005, 04:35:44 PM »
oio , 1st it will cost you to file small claims, 2nd the deal was not "closed" when you gave them the $500 ,it is only closed when they sign the car over to you.