Lost Art of Combat

[lazs2]

people haven't changed.   What has changed is the way the arena is set up and ... the amounts of people in it.  I foolishly believed that the more the merrier... I based this erorronious thinking on the fact that when there were few of us we had great fights and more like us would mean more good fights.

Where I erred was in thinking the new guys were like us... they aren't... They have no interest in getting good at air combat.   They are extremely frieghtened of being beaten.... even tho they must know that the only way that they will get good is to fight and die...  Instead... they tell themselves that they are working towards a "goal" and "teamwork"  evewn tho even the lamest amoung them must know that the goals are silly and pointless compared to actually beating another human in virtual combat.

But... we need these losers... we need em to pay HT and co. and allow him to stay in bussiness.   Sure, they are pale, spineless untalented, mouse weilding building battlers that most often ruin the game but... I guess we need em.   Otherwise they would be spending theri money at some star trek convention or role playing game.   Fortunately most don't read this BB so they don't know how laughable and pitifull we think they are.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[Flyboy]

Originally posted by lazs2
people haven't changed.   What has changed is the way the arena is set up and ... the amounts of people in it.  I foolishly believed that the more the merrier... I based this erorronious thinking on the fact that when there were few of us we had great fights and more like us would mean more good fights.

Where I erred was in thinking the new guys were like us... they aren't... They have no interest in getting good at air combat.   They are extremely frieghtened of being beaten.... even tho they must know that the only way that they will get good is to fight and die...  Instead... they tell themselves that they are working towards a "goal" and "teamwork"  evewn tho even the lamest amoung them must know that the goals are silly and pointless compared to actually beating another human in virtual combat.

But... we need these losers... we need em to pay HT and co. and allow him to stay in bussiness.   Sure, they are pale, spineless untalented, mouse weilding building battlers that most often ruin the game but... I guess we need em.   Otherwise they would be spending theri money at some star trek convention or role playing game.   Fortunately most don't read this BB so they don't know how laughable and pitifull we think they are.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

ouch, thats cold.

[Urchin]

Yea, but it is true.

[SuperDud]

Well put Lazs2! I'm still new(3 months) and on the rare occasions I find a good 1vs1 it's laughable. Guys that have been here years still have no clue as to what and when to do ACM's. Some of them ask me how I got to were I am so fast and I tell them I've been in the TA and DA for those 3 months(spend very little time in the MA) getting my butt handed to me by Ghosth, Shane, Furball, bovidae, Morph and the list goes on and on. And I think the problem is, they can't stand to lose, just like you said. Also, I believe they have what I call the "MA mentality" where you fly in your horde and cherry pick. At the end of the day they have a score of 500 or lower and think they're great. Just my thoughts...






Also, I'm not in any way trying to sound like I'm awesome and can beat most of the guys that post here...I can't. Do I think I will be able to in the future... you bet ya:D

[Shane]

Originally posted by SuperDud
1. Guys that have been here years still have no clue as to what and when to do ACM's.

2. Some of them ask me how I got to were I am so fast and I tell them I've been in the TA and DA for those 3 months

3. I think the problem is, they can't stand to lose, just like you said.

4. Also, I'm not in any way trying to sound like I'm awesome and can beat most of the guys that post here...I can't. Do I think I will be able to in the future... you bet ya:D

1. Spot-on. Bear in mind, some simply just.. can't, for a variety of reasons from genetic to equipment to simple lack of ambition.

2. that's one of the best ways to get better at handling various  rides and learning their capabilities - SA will come thru experience, but the skills you learn will only complement the SA you develop.

3. Spot-on. Fragile egos.

4. that's the 'tude to take.

[culero]

Its always occured to me that the lost traditions being mourned here are associated with the days in which arenas were smaller. Yet, I don't see the argument being made that perhaps the smaller arena environment was a major factor in developing those traditions.

I believe its so.

When your friends and enemas number in the hundreds, they tend to become faceless, of little more importance than the terrain and airspace you operate in.

When its just a few dozen on each side, people get to know each other well, and begin to form bonds, both intra-team and inter-team. How many of us can remember those enema we used to love to Hate?

Its always been my opinion that an assortment of smaller arenas (perhaps each with a different setup, perhaps not) would be a breeding ground for more closely knit communities within the larger overall community. Baby steps grow.

Food for thought (©Lugs)

culero

[culero]

PS - Shane, U suXX0r! :ž

culero

[megadud]

Originally posted by SuperDud
Some of them ask me how I got to were I am so fast and I tell them I've been in the TA and DA for those 3 months(spend very little time in the MA) getting my butt handed to me by Ghosth, Shane, Furball, bovidae, Morph and the list goes on and on.

you forgot megadud

megadud

[MOIL]

Interesting tread, although it has been in the forums many times in one form or another, still good points.

This is my take on the whole thing, and anyone that has lived or does live in a small town like myself will probably agree.

The MA is like a small town, I live in a relatively small town, pop. 2600.
Here, everyone knows just about everyone, they all have a history, some good/some not so good. They all know just about everyone {or at least "heard the name"}
Funny thing is although most are friendly and welcome your conversation and points of veiw. There is always a few here and there that overall are just not this way.

The reason being, it's a small town, you can be not so nice or back stab because in the end all you have is all the same people {give or take a couple} still living in this small town. You can get away with poor behavior, hurtful talk and other unpleasant things because all you have at the end of the day is the same group ya started with.

This has been the case in the MA since day one, it's not that it's a bad thing or great thing. The community is what the community makes itself. There is no huge group of people moving into the arena that anyone has to be leary of or mean too. Again, all we have is each other, the same group we have fun & great laughs with and the same group we are mean and disrespectful too.

I have played for the last 6 months WW2 Online, although a similar game {and NO this isn't a comparison between ww2 online and AH} the "town" or "MA" is much larger than AH's.
Not that this is good or bad thing, you soon learn you're not in a "small town" anymore. Brotherhood, comradre' , friendly personable chat and since of pride are hard to find. Sure you have your squadmates and a few countrymen around, but trrust me you're not in that small town anymore. You cant spout off at the enemy on ch200 or tell a foe "good shot" or "nice fight"  You either took his life or he took yours.

Moral of the story:
We can choose as a small town to continue to have a nice place to grow and raise the kids, see an old friend at the diner or say hello to the grumpy guy at the newspaper stand. OR we can nit pick, back stab and belittle each other because at the end of the day or the next day when we wake up, it's still all the same people. Even the grumpy guy at the paper stand that is always there, that you know you wouldn't trade for anyone.

[megadud]

Originally posted by MOIL
Interesting tread, although it has been in the forums many times in one form or another, still good points.

This is my take on the whole thing, and anyone that has lived or does live in a small town like myself will probably agree.

The MA is like a small town, I live in a relatively small town, pop. 2600.
Here, everyone knows just about everyone, they all have a history, some good/some not so good. They all know just about everyone {or at least "heard the name"}
Funny thing is although most are friendly and welcome your conversation and points of veiw. There is always a few here and there that overall are just not this way.

The reason being, it's a small town, you can be not so nice or back stab because in the end all you have is all the same people {give or take a couple} still living in this small town. You can get away with poor behavior, hurtful talk and other unpleasant things because all you have at the end of the day is the same group ya started with.

This has been the case in the MA since day one, it's not that it's a bad thing or great thing. The community is what the community makes itself. There is no huge group of people moving into the arena that anyone has to be leary of or mean too. Again, all we have is each other, the same group we have fun & great laughs with and the same group we are mean and disrespectful too.

I have played for the last 6 months WW2 Online, although a similar game {and NO this isn't a comparison between ww2 online and AH} the "town" or "MA" is much larger than AH's.
Not that this is good or bad thing, you soon learn you're not in a "small town" anymore. Brotherhood, comradre' , friendly personable chat and since of pride are hard to find. Sure you have your squadmates and a few countrymen around, but trrust me you're not in that small town anymore. You cant spout off at the enemy on ch200 or tell a foe "good shot" or "nice fight"  You either took his life or he took yours.

Moral of the story:
We can choose as a small town to continue to have a nice place to grow and raise the kids, see an old friend at the diner or say hello to the grumpy guy at the newspaper stand. OR we can nit pick, back stab and belittle each other because at the end of the day or the next day when we wake up, it's still all the same people. Even the grumpy guy at the paper stand that is always there, that you know you wouldn't trade for anyone.

sounds like desperate housewives...but with AH..you might have something here...

give cbs a call...

megadud

[Shane]

re-title it "Desperate Sheep Guys" and you might have a winner.

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by Shane
1. ... to simple lack of ambition.

You must have been lookin' in my direction when you typed this.

[FiLtH]

AMen ROC...the MA is the TA for scenarios..nothing else matters.

[Glasses]

The CT I believe is where you separate the men from the boys ....and from Michael Jackson.

[SCDR]

Originally posted by FiLtH
I loved AW as much as anyone. The one on one stuff at
Fightertown, everything. But this isnt AW. In AW without the HO
option you really had to work at gaining the guy's 6 to get a shot./B]

I always thought it took more skill to get the 6 or an angle shot.
In AW it was fun to do that.  AH is HO heaven.
Also the divebombing buffs is way out of line, BUT it's important
to someone with connections so we're stuck with it.

SCDR