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Offline Silat

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« Reply #60 on: February 09, 2005, 09:15:24 AM »
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Yeah.  Why would we want to dump more money into the economy.  Keep it stashed for gov't expansion.

Were you opposed to this idea when Clinton came up with it, or just now that Bush has adopted it?




Ummm Bush is president last time I looked. Try not to live in the past:)
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« Reply #61 on: February 09, 2005, 09:20:51 AM »
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So, the idea is to make the veteran/military class, two tiered. We can devide them into real and fake soldiers. Do fake soldiers get a guarantee they will never be made a real soldier when they sign up?

BTW Martlet, are you a real soldier or a fake soldier?

On which tier is Bush?


I don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

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Ummm Bush is president last time I looked. Try not to live in the past:)


Convenient answer.  I expected a dodge, just not one so blatant.
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« Reply #62 on: February 09, 2005, 09:42:46 AM »
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You know I read somewhere the 75 year gap in SS could be completed eliminated in one fell swoop by simply eliminating the cap on payroll taxes - currently only the first $90,000 earned are taxed for SS purposes.
 


I like this. It leads me on to the idea that we could probably totally eliminate the deficit if the government just taxed everyone at 100%.

OK, maybe that's a little too harsh.

How about this... no matter how much you make, you only get to keep a maximum of $50,000. That's enough for anyone to live on.

The government would get the rest to pay down the deficit and national debt. Because we all know that's what they'd do with it. They sure wouldn't just keep spending and speennddiinng and ssspppeeennndddiiinnnggg forever because they're so responsible with our money.
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« Reply #63 on: February 09, 2005, 10:02:11 AM »
>>I don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. <<

Ok, your post wasn't that long ago but to refresh your memory

>>Bush wants veteran's without service related medical conditions to accept more responsibility. I don't see anything wrong with that. The people that spilled their blood and broke their bodies would be unaffected.<<

This is a two tiered class. Those who "spilled their blood and broke their bodies " and I guess those that didn't. Are you really prepared to make that distinction in the military class?
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« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2005, 10:07:55 AM »
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>>I don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. <<

Ok, your post wasn't that long ago but to refresh your memory

>>Bush wants veteran's without service related medical conditions to accept more responsibility. I don't see anything wrong with that. The people that spilled their blood and broke their bodies would be unaffected.<<

This is a two tiered class. Those who "spilled their blood and broke their bodies " and I guess those that didn't. Are you really prepared to make that distinction in the military class?


Sure I am.  Work related injuries are taken care of by the employer.  If you worked at GE for 15 years, then broke your ankle 20 years later, you can't go back and make them pay for it.

And that's not even what they are saying.  They're saying if you break your ankle 20 years later we WILL pay for it, but you'll have to pay 20 bucks a month for that insurance.   However, if you broke your ankle while you were employed with us, we'll continue to take care of you for free.

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me.
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« Reply #65 on: February 10, 2005, 02:09:11 PM »
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Convenient answer.  I expected a dodge, just not one so blatant.




The dodge is you bringing up Clinton or the left instead of dealing with the current admins mistakes and or thier victories.

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« Reply #66 on: February 10, 2005, 02:11:37 PM »
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The dodge is you bringing up Clinton or the left instead of dealing with the current admins mistakes and or there victories.

                    ;)


The idea started long before Bush picked it up.  The history if an issue isn't a valid topic anymore?
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« Reply #67 on: February 10, 2005, 11:49:45 PM »
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The idea started long before Bush picked it up.  The history if an issue isn't a valid topic anymore?



Now that, is a nice dodge.
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« Reply #68 on: February 11, 2005, 08:57:18 AM »
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The pattern is consistent, scream blue bloody murder at anything and everything GWB proposes and counter with nothing. [/B]



I hate to burst your bubble here, but Bush is the one stating that social security is in dire straights.  If your position is that the crisis is not so immediate and that we have time to prepare for a more measured fix, then there is no rush to present a counter proposal.  Most Dems are saying that privatization does nothing to fix anything.  Let's take a more measured approach to the real problem and plan to fix that.  That's a pretty smart counter-proposal.

As far as the budget goes, its an insult to anyone with a calculator.  But classic Bush, all the way.
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« Reply #69 on: February 11, 2005, 09:49:10 AM »
That's very well put, Scud.
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