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Offline indy007

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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2005, 11:57:19 AM »
"GTA B*(&#!!!" -the guy running over zombies in Resident Evil 2 movie.

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2005, 12:06:43 PM »
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Oh and if you're going to quote me Nefarious please do it acurately.

I think there is big difference between WW2 simulations and games that encourage criminality!


Lighten up dude, I wasnt trying to belittle you.

Any game that has any type of violence is going to glorify it and encourage you to do it more.

Wether it be the Grand Theft Auto Series, or the Resident Evil Series. If a game involves some type of killing its going its going to be the key point to the game.

I dont play Aces High to fly around and look at the rustic farm houses and experience the joy of flight. If I wanted to do that I would play MSFS, or become a real pilot, but I dont want to play that, nor at the present time do I feel like becoming a pilot.

I want to Kill. I want to Shoot other people down. I want to drop bombs and strafe things.
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2005, 12:11:30 PM »
sorry wulfie, but i am unaware of any game where your charecter is a nazi.

i have seen the newer WWII FPS's and iirc you are either american or russian.

killing civilian's (heck killing everything) is a part of a first person Shooter those games in general are all about shooting and killing many many people, AND if you read my whole initial post, i am not talking about FPS games in the first place
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i have never thought about shooting someone after playing a FPS game, or anything like that, i just know it's wrong.
 

if there is a nazi FPS out there, it is in very bad taste.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2005, 12:19:25 PM »
I was replying to Zulu's post initially when you replied to me.

In WWIIOl, you can play as a German. There are guys who "role play" as Nazis, or Waffen SS. Call of Duty can be German too, and get a skin to play as SS.

There was a Nazi FPS game, but something happened to it. Not sure, don't care. It was a while back.

In any event, Zulu is trying to label GTA and it's "idolization of crime" as bad for the public while there are games just as bad. You even said it yourself, in a FPS you are SUPPOSED to kill.

If kids get influenced by this, which they shouldn't even be playing unless their parent(s) bought it for them and then there parent(s) failed to teach them on the matter, then the fault lies with the parents. Not the gaming industry or the developers of these games.

We saw the same bull**** come about when those Columbine kids shot up the school. Then we saw flight sims almost get axed because of 9/11/2001, and then after that kid flew that Cessna into a building. It's always something else to blame.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2005, 12:33:59 PM »
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i have seen the newer WWII FPS's and iirc you are either american or russian.


Heh, and how is this better than being a Natzi ?

Soviet Russia exterminated THOUSANDS of jewish natives during Lenin's reign (probably during Stalin's too).  Makes them just as bad as the Germans IMHO.

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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2005, 12:37:10 PM »
anyone that cannot distinguish between a computer game and RL need help and should be banned from playing those sort of games at all.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2005, 12:38:38 PM »
Most of the kids I work with don't have a PC they do however have  playstations! So I guess access to GTA is easier than for online simms.

At the local education centre I found a bunch of non school attenders playing a mafia game! crime is cool history is not to these guys hence the crime glamour stuff has more of an impact on em.

But I agree it worries me slightly when people ape Waffen SS characters, or get involved in simulations of death camps etc.

I don't however think playing as a German soldier in WW2 online is the same as having a Nazi obsession.

Finaly though, I reiterate you don't see many school drop outs, young offenders, drug users, etc playing WW2 online. you do however see them playing GTA and the like!

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2005, 12:54:46 PM »
Good grief, anal people make me insane. My parents would have been jailed today for letting us be kids like they did in the 70’s.

I think Laz2 in a post way back, pointed out that growing up not real long ago, you knew it was time to come home when it finally got dark, and you were exhausted, cold, and just plain starved from playing so hard.

As a kid in the 70’s, we didn’t have computers and such, so we acted out in real life what we thought was cool. We used our mini-bikes to make plywood jumps like Evel Knievel. When we played ‘War’ we used the helmets, with winter coats as ‘armor’ with one pump Daisey  BBguns and shot at each other . And we drove those same oh so dangerous Honda Trail 70’s out to rock quarries far from the farms and safety of parents to do battle. That would be child neglect today, yet we somehow survived. (Fun as **** too.)

This video game stuff ought to make every parent today relax, and thank video game makers that they can raise dormant slugs, safe from the boogeyman, and their own prosecution if their kid actually leaves the house and behaves like… well a kid.

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2005, 12:56:57 PM »
They'd be better off doing the things you say creamo. They are slugs indeed if we are not carefull.

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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2005, 12:57:16 PM »
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... i found myself getting mroe infuriated than usual at slow moronci drivers....


fuuuuhnn  tastic.



Same crap was said about the violence in cartoons, and be honest now, how many safes/anvils have you seen dropped on someone else's head?

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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2005, 12:57:57 PM »
Being sniped at constantly in Joint Ops, I find myself scanning buildings and wooded areas all the time now for snipers!! lmao

I also find myself looking for good areas for claymores.. lol

What a game!! Its shanktastic!! lol

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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2005, 01:07:48 PM »
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the troops sure look allied to me.


Nationality wasn't my point.  The fact that a virtual civilian population is bombed into oblivion and then invaded by a contingent of enemy troops was the point.  Storm-Troopers is just a more graphic word than "drunks, troops, or bish/nit sheep-shaggers."

I'm not advocating death-camp sims, and I'm not saying that games like GTA and Postal are uplifting entertainment for kids.  The thought of a society that enjoys these virtual killing sprees is a rather disturbing one, but I see video games as a mere symptom.  The real problem lies far deeper, and is not so easy to point fingers at on the evening news.

That said.... I'm a go play some GTA :D

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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2005, 01:09:31 PM »
The liberal upbringing has made the children nowadays complete waterheads.

They walk around with wool hats with 30c heat and pants hanging half way. When a group of the woolheads collect together the internal heat of thier head raises so high that they start vandalising thier surroundings.

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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2005, 01:10:03 PM »
I agree completely with Zulu, and I think we should take it a step further.  These 'video games' are a fad, the real danger is in the libraries.  

I visited one of these dens of inequity recently and was shocked at the books they have that glamorize crime.  Everything from history books that described the assassination of presidents, talk about the Holocaust (where MILLIONS were killed illegally), and more.

They even have copies of the christian bible which has sex, violence, incest, and more.  

OUTRAGEOUS!

So I'm with Zulu.  Lock the video games up behind the counter, only allow adults into the library, and let's lock down TV while we're at it.  There's no good reason for male kids to see females that aren't family on the television, that's just a recipe for creating lustful feelings which, quite frankly, are inappropriate.

Won't SOMEBODY please think of the children?
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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2005, 01:16:29 PM »
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Same crap was said about the violence in cartoons, and be honest now, how many safes/anvils have you seen dropped on someone else's head?


Anvils and safes are hard to get, like guns for a 10 year old.

Hammers however... my Dad had 2. A bigass ball peen, and a carpenters claw. Come to think of it, after watching The 3 stooges growing up, I never DID hit my friend in the head with it, although we made a tree house with it that OSHA would have jailed my parents over.