P38G Virtues

[Red Tail 444]

Okay, I havent flown much lately, but just what exacly is the P38G good at, besides killing me?

[Furball]

Pissing you off because you cannot see out of the front of it.  The person that designed the p38G cockpit must have caught the same short bus to school that the guy that designed the D-11 took.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
Okay, I havent flown much lately, but just what exacly is the P38G good at, besides killing me?

Good question.  We've had them in the CT for a couple of weeks now, most recently in a PAC setup against A6M5s and Tonys.  Last night I giggled when I saw, on Channel 2, "these 38s are lunch."  Seemed to be true, although it flies a lot better than I thought it would (except for those stalls).

- oldman

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Oldman731
Good question.  We've had them in the CT for a couple of weeks now, most recently in a PAC setup against A6M5s and Tonys.  Last night I giggled when I saw, on Channel 2, "these 38s are lunch."  Seemed to be true, although it flies a lot better than I thought it would (except for those stalls).

- oldman

98% of the people who fly the P-38 have no clue as to how to use it. The remaining 2% who do know how to fly the P-38 will kick butts from one end of the arena to the other. Flown properly, the P-38G is untouchable by Zeros or the Ki-61, that's not an opinion, that's a fact.

My regards,

Widewing

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Furball
Pissing you off because you cannot see out of the front of it.  The person that designed the p38G cockpit must have caught the same short bus to school that the guy that designed the D-11 took.

100 -----> 's

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Widewing
98% of the people who fly the P-38 have no clue as to how to use it. The remaining 2% who do know how to fly the P-38 will kick butts from one end of the arena to the other. Flown properly, the P-38G is untouchable by Zeros or the Ki-61, that's not an opinion, that's a fact.

My regards,

Widewing

That doesn't get to the point of this thread, the late model P38's are a different monster, so, I ask again, what in particular does the P38G excel at?

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
That doesn't get to the point of this thread, the late model P38's are a different monster, so, I ask again, what in particular does the P38G excel at?

It turns a bit better I think, other than that, why should it excel at something different?  It is a less potent P-38 is all.


Oh, ok, I'll give you one thing.  It is better looking.

[pellik]

It's a really, really good perk farmer.

[dedalos]

typical answers from the experts .  We are told about how we don't know how to fly them and how they can, but we are not told how to fly them.  How do you fly a 38 right then and what is special about the G.

Real question and not a flame.  What is the right way to fly a 38 when you engage some one co-e, lets say a Spit, A6M, P51, or a 109/190 what ever your experience is.  (I asssume the right way is not to always have the advanttage)  I suck, but if I catch one co-e in a spit, KI84, NIK, or LAx, 90% of the time they end up enjoing coffee in the tower.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Red Tail 444
That doesn't get to the point of this thread, the late model P38's are a different monster, so, I ask again, what in particular does the P38G excel at?

As someone who only flies the G, I can't compare it to the other Lightnings.  Listening to folks I fly with who fly the J and L, the J seems to be the preferred bird.

For me the G excels in that I like early model Lightnings for the look and the history

It does turn nice, has the same firepower as the others.

The top of the armor glass is too low compared to how it should really be so visibility is a problem.  The armor glass also gives problems in particular when the sun is going down etc as the glass reflection effects shooting, which in my case is bad to begin with.

It has no WEP.

From what I've read, that glass in reality was so clear that pilots forgot it was there, so it shouldn't be a problem.

If you are flying a Lightning to fly a Lightning, I'd take a J or L.  Obviously they are better birds.

I'm just stubborn and my image of 38 pilots is the one of the guys in 42-44 in North Africa, over Rabaul, in the Aleutians, and the early 38s over Europe.  All early birds.  about 2/3rds of Bong's kills were in F,G, H birds as an example.

So I guess it's strong suit for is it adds to the historical immersion for me

Dan/Slack

[killnu]

what the 38 can not out turn, it will out run.  what the 38 can not out run, it will out turn.  so, you have to know the other aircraft you are going up against and fight against its weakness.  there is no "pat" answer on how to fly the 38.  it constantly changes since the enme you face change.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by killnu
what the 38 can not out turn, it will out run.  what the 38 can not out run, it will out turn.  so, you have to know the other aircraft you are going up against and fight against its weakness.  there is no "pat" answer on how to fly the 38.  it constantly changes since the enme you face change.

, thats is my point also.  Lots of planes can do what you described.  If anyone knows how to fly them the right way, then please describe how to fly it against a bird you know how to use the 38 against.  Statements about what the population of the MA may or may not know are not very helpfull and as killinu said, there is no one way to fly any plane.  Depends on the situation.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Widewing
Flown properly, the P-38G is untouchable by Zeros or the Ki-61, that's not an opinion, that's a fact.

Could be, could be.  Just haven't seen it yet, I guess.

- oldman

[storch]

Originally posted by Widewing
98% of the people who fly the P-38 have no clue as to how to use it. The remaining 2% who do know how to fly the P-38 will kick butts from one end of the arena to the other. Flown properly, the P-38G is untouchable by Zeros or the Ki-61, that's not an opinion, that's a fact.

My regards,

Widewing

Come to the CT and show me.  

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Widewing
Flown properly, the P-38G is untouchable by Zeros or the Ki-61, that's not an opinion, that's a fact.

I can easily see that in regards to the A6M series due to their crappy high speed handling, but a Ki-61-I-Tei above you would still be a very bad thing as far as I can figure it.