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Offline Lizking

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« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2005, 10:48:22 PM »
It is a delicate position Airhead held as a fluffer in the Gay Porn industry.  I am sorry that his wife and children had to find out about his occupation in such an unseemly way, but perhaps his marriage will survive this blow and his children will not grow up to be liberals.  One can only hope and pray that he surmounts this hurdle to his career.

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« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2005, 11:12:30 PM »
huh huh, he said "blow"!
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« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2005, 02:28:30 AM »
Drediock and Indy it's naturally for example HTC's priviledge to dictate what goes on in this forum. This is clear.

I just don't understand why so many people support all these limitations and why nobody created legislation in your country which would protect a persons privacy.

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If the company policy says you can't visit certain web pages, they can limit the users net access quite easily. However I would never want to work in a place where all my e-mail traffic or web traffic would be constantly monitored. Some people do banking from work, write personal e-mail etc.

Most european countries have very strict laws about personal information, even the ISP's are not allowed to monitor what thier client is doing on the net. Same applies to phone numbers, addresses, medical records etc.
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« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2005, 03:08:37 AM »
I Airheads been taking estrogen again, hes turning into a nambie pambie vegetarian left wing whale hugging man hating lesbian.

Whats next Airhead, rallying the FDBs to burn their man-bra's?

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« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2005, 03:42:47 AM »
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Sounds like a BS reason to bully your employees.


That describes most motivations.

On the other hand, why are they looking at anything but work related sites while on company hours, or on company computers?

If you have free time to surf at work, you have free time to increase your productivity. I'm sure they didn't buy that computer to entertain you while you take a break.

There is a middle ground in there somewhere where employees only use the internet for personal  information when they are supposed to be on break, and don't visit sites that could cause the company that employs them costly lawsuits. And that company allows them to use their computers and internet time for the employees personal use, granted that they aren't put in a litigionous(wow, sp?) situation.

What gets me is people that think they deserve the privelage of computer usage and internet access. If your employer doesn't tell you that you have that as a perk, then you are abusing that employer by using their equipment for personal use.


Most do it.......hell, I do it. But don't ***** about it when it gets taken away, or they block every site that has nothing to do with work.



If you get fired for what you look at on the internet at work???

Tough chit.

If you create a post about something and tell everyone that you have been fired, when in fact you are self employed?...... to ya :D

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« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2005, 01:32:33 PM »
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Drediock and Indy it's naturally for example HTC's priviledge to dictate what goes on in this forum. This is clear.

I just don't understand why so many people support all these limitations and why nobody created legislation in your country which would protect a persons privacy.

 
YOUR privacy. See? :D

If the company policy says you can't visit certain web pages, they can limit the users net access quite easily. However I would never want to work in a place where all my e-mail traffic or web traffic would be constantly monitored. Some people do banking from work, write personal e-mail etc.

Most european countries have very strict laws about personal information, even the ISP's are not allowed to monitor what thier client is doing on the net. Same applies to phone numbers, addresses, medical records etc.


I understand what your saying.
Here we do have privacy laws where privacy is a reasonable expectation.
Lets not forget the company and the owners rights also
Companies have a right to know exactly whats going on on their property and with their equipment. Therefore you do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Now companies handle this situation differently.
I know of some where you are free to look and and do what you please online.
I know of others that wont let you surf at all. Or have it limited to the managment level on up.
Some that monitor every little thing and others that dont monitor at all. And everything in between.

I do beleive but am not absolutely certain that companies must tell you exactly what their monitoring policy is if you ask them.

also remember in this day and age companies can and sometimes are held accountable for what their employees do. So in many cases they almost have to monitor whats going on just to prevent being sued.

On your own machine you have every right to privacy.
On someones elses you dont.

If you wanted to use my car I sure as hell would want to know exactly what you were using it for.
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« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2005, 03:36:21 PM »
What about drug testing? Do you think it's ok for a company to spy on it's workers on their own time, like in the case of drug testing?

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« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2005, 03:50:37 PM »
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What about drug testing? Do you think it's ok for a company to spy on it's workers on their own time, like in the case of drug testing?


That's different. Never thought about it that way. I don't see it as that. An employer wants to know if who they're hiring "allegedly commits criminal acts." How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?

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« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2005, 03:56:22 PM »
"How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?"

and the drugs are expensive, could lead to stealing...

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« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2005, 04:02:34 PM »
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If it is not work-safe, it does not belong on this board.  Simple.



you know, I never thought I'd say this but I have to agree with Mr. Bus-that-nobody-uses here.
However, it's a moot point in my case, because where I work this BBS link is blocked. :confused:

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« Reply #70 on: February 19, 2005, 04:24:18 PM »
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That's different. Never thought about it that way. I don't see it as that. An employer wants to know if who they're hiring "allegedly commits criminal acts." How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?


That is a retarded arguement.  

By your standards, employers should be placing speedometer monitors in your car to to see if you are speeding.

How about the states were oral sex is illegal?  Should your employer be allowed to place a camera in your bedroom to see if you are getting any blowjobs?

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« Reply #71 on: February 19, 2005, 04:28:55 PM »
Oral sex is ILLEGAL in some states? you got to be shi**ing me... WTF is wrong with you guys???
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« Reply #72 on: February 19, 2005, 04:59:23 PM »
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Oral sex is ILLEGAL in some states? you got to be shi**ing me... WTF is wrong with you guys???


Only the red ones.

Oh and .... some people need to get a life. I bet one of you guys actually enjoyed yelling out the end of the movie during the opening credits back when you were a kid... last year.

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« Reply #73 on: February 19, 2005, 05:07:08 PM »
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"How do you trust somebody to follow your company guidelines when they don't bother to obey criminal law?"

and the drugs are expensive, could lead to stealing...


Some people used to spend more money on Warbirds than a junkie spends on dope, I wonder if they were stealing too?;) Actually it might be a good if the employer could see your bank accounts and CC transactions. It would be useful for preventing a lot of bad things and increase the workers happiness and productivity.

Seriously, it's not about your hobbies or their legal status.  It's about if it's ok for your employer to spy on you on your own time.
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« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2005, 05:48:27 PM »
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What about drug testing? Do you think it's ok for a company to spy on it's workers on their own time, like in the case of drug testing?


No I think what a person or employee does on his own time is his own buisness.

I personally I am against drug testing because it does infringe on a persons privacy.
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