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Offline Zanth

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« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2005, 12:22:30 AM »
any shareware bbs software?

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« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2005, 12:26:27 AM »

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« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2005, 12:34:42 AM »
Is this how that other Warbirds site started?

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« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2005, 02:36:31 AM »
I certainly feel a bit chaffed about this, maybe hurt would be a better word.  We were just off on a rather ridiculous tangent.  

I am not sure a new BBS is the answer.

But then what do I know? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #79 on: February 20, 2005, 05:56:30 AM »
well thankfully i missed out on getting the old edit :D

although it would have been humerous if instead of 'flame' you put 'deleted for whine' instead. :lol :lol
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« Reply #80 on: February 20, 2005, 01:31:33 PM »
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oh well, guess what I thought was funny and laughed at by using the ----->:D

was took the wrong way
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« Reply #81 on: February 20, 2005, 02:22:59 PM »
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I cant even remember what i said? what did i say to get deleted?

HiTech how about when your post gets edited, you get an automated email telling you what you said and why it is not allowed.  I am honestly clueless to what i said and why it was bad.
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« Reply #82 on: February 20, 2005, 02:40:05 PM »
Shame on you Furby! Gonna have a talk with the 'Public Relations Officer' about this. :p

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« Reply #83 on: February 20, 2005, 02:49:53 PM »
I think i said: -

"ooh, ill take the meds please..." with regards to this: -

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holy crap! :rofl

Dont know if I should laugh or buy you some medication











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« Reply #84 on: February 22, 2005, 06:17:36 AM »
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My understanding is that HT is going to change the FM on the 190's very soon. They will also get a face lift.

If we can get maneuvering flaps on the 190's, and this is somewhat contentious, the 190's may become a more popular ride.

And if they set the A8 so that it can outturn a A5, as my understanding the real A8 outturned the A5, and the Dora outturned the A8.

So we can just hope that the 190s get tuned up soon.

But from my limited readings of WW2 (I'm a WW1 buff) the late war Allied planes were in fact very good. And in a MA where all planes are available most people will gravitate to the better plane sets. The Pony D, Spit 9, NIKI and LA7 are prime expamples, and more people fly the Dora than the 190A8 even though the Dora has only a slight edge on K/D over the A8.

Here is an example, since you can no longer sucker a Pony or a LA7 into a turn fight with your 109F4, because he thinks it's a G10, why fly the Frank?

Late model rides will be more popular, and the late war allied planes are excellent.


The 190 A5 had much less wingloading the the A8 aswell as the D9 thus the A5 turned better then both. The A8 was much designed as a bomber killer and was more heavily armed and overall heavier. More or less the same airframe otherwise and the same wing area = heigher wingloading = worse turn rate.

The dora is a couple of hundred kilos heavier then the A8 (both being empty) and it's got the same wing area which would result in a slightly worse turn rate. Of course, the Dora is by far the better fighter when it comes to all fights, including turnfights thanks to engine power and the more smooth lines of the plane.

Not sure where you have heard the A8 will outturn the  A5 and the Dora oututrn both of them, but it's wrong.

As for maneuvering flaps, non of the 190's (according to the manual) we capable of having the flaps extended in speed of 350Km/h or above (about 218mph). This is about 40-50mph heigher then what can currently be used in AH (unless it has been changed since I flew last time). It doesn't say what speeds the flaps can be deployed at though.

As for the 190's getting tuned up, don't get your hopes up. As to my undertstaning Pyro has said he will remodell them after LW charts (if I remember correct). This doesn't mean they will be improved though, just different. Much depends on what charts will be used but Pyro said that many of the charts he's got show the planes inferior (or atleast worse) then what we have now.

Before I had to take a paus from AH, shortly after 2.0 was released, I found the 190's to be quite different from AH 1.x. Infact, for the first time in AH I felt they were real competative planes, closer to what many 190 pilots said they were.
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« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2005, 06:37:04 AM »
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The dora is a couple of hundred kilos heavier then the A8


Hi Wilbus, you sure about that? If i remember right the D9 is almost equal in empty and loaded weight as the A8 with 4xMG151.

The slightly higher weight of the JUMO213 is offset by the somewhat lighter armament the D9 has compared to the A8.


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As for maneuvering flaps, non of the 190's (according to the manual) we capable of having the flaps extended in speed of 350Km/h or above (about 218mph).


The manual i have for the FW190A Series doesn't give a limiting speed for the "take off" flap position. Only with flaps down in "landing" position it is prohibited to exceed 300 km/k (~185 mph).

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« Reply #86 on: February 22, 2005, 06:58:37 AM »
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« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2005, 07:59:24 AM »
Hey Naudet, good to see ya again.

As for the weights, looking through two books now, the first being the exelent "Focke Wulf Fw190 in Combat" by Alfred Price. The other book is "Warplanes of the Luftwaffe".

Empty weight of the 190 A8 is 3170 Kg. For the D9 it is 3323 Kg.

Normal flying weight of the two are more or less identical though of about 4300 kg.

The manual I have or had (can't find it on this Hard-drive) stated that maximum speed with one notch of flaps was 350Km/h.

As for turnradius though, a few Kg's here or there on the A8 and D9 won't matter that much. The A5 was clearly the lightest of them all, aswell as the best turner. The A8 and D9 were both quite bad, if any, the D9 would probarly turn better then the A8.
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« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2005, 02:27:14 PM »
I feel the 200 range plane type icon should be replaced by the enemies game ID.  In this way I'll know who to give a to in a stalmate without have to stop to look at the film then having to come back online to find that person who has already logged off.  Or I'll know when to just stick my tail between my legs and "RUNAWAY".:D

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« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2005, 03:04:43 PM »
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If that's how AH will continue to make money more power to them but it doesn't bode well for the future of ToD, at least imo.


Simple answer, fly TOD without icons. You know your going up against the other sides planes. This will bring the aspect of plane recognition into the game. This along with friendly fire would make for some interesting times as in a noob firing on you because he didn't take to the time to make sure it was an enemy plane.