Author Topic: Bomb hits wingman (Read 1233 times)

SunTracker · « **on:** February 21, 2005, 06:30:38 AM »

Can anyone tell me what these planes are, and what country they are flying for?

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/FA18eject.html

hacksaw1 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2005, 07:37:41 AM »

The plane that gets hit is a TA-4 Skyhawk
The plane that released the ord is an F-18, Hornet, can't tell if it's the Super Hornet or not. Looks to me like US from the star on the aft fuselage of the Skyhawk.

Regards

Cement1

Starbird · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2005, 10:26:11 AM »

I saw this video first here:

http://alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

I remember reading that the a-4 pilot bailed sucessfully.

It looks like this was a bomb drop test, with all the camera angles.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:38:40 PM »

Looks like a 2 seat version so question did they both survive.

Furball · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2005, 12:53:53 PM »

the F/A-18 lose a horizontal stabiliser? first clip it is there, after the slo mo dropping and it zooms back out it is gone.

kinda makes a mockery of the flight dynamics in AH with a wingtip missing.

Maverick · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:22:32 PM »

The FA18 didn't seem to suffer any damage. Tha A4 lost a portion of it's wing. It did not lose any part of the vertical or horizontal stabilizer. Look at the tail in the very last couple seconds of the tape. The tail is intact.

As to stability issues. You have a significant difference in lift on each side due to the change in wing span on one side. There may also be aileron damage as well on one side precluding the use of that control to help maintain stability by the pilot. I'd imagine the pilot is doing his darndest to regain stabililty. He obviously saw the impact coming and tried to avoid it.

The hydraulics may also have been compromised by the damage. Once the fluid has bled out the pilot is a passenger and ejection becomes his only viable option.

As to the stability issues in AH. It's a game. This clip here is not the definitive example of what happens to an aircraft EVERY time it loses a portion of wing. Does anyone recall the clip of the F18's that collided and one returned with most of one wing missing? I thought that was absolutely amazing and wouildn't have believed it had I not seen the clip of it actually flying under control.

mora · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:45:12 PM »

Looks like the pilot was trying to regain cotrol up until he gave up. Infact he seemed to get it stabilized in descent at one point but went wing over when trying to raise the nose.

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Originally posted by Furball
kinda makes a mockery of the flight dynamics in AH with a wingtip missing.

Note that the pilot is applying only a little aileron.

Funny coincidence, today I was flying my RC Tiger Moth when I lost half of my top wing during a high G manouver. Luckily I had plenty of alt and only broke the prop on the pretty gentle landing.

Furball · « **Reply #7 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:52:13 PM »

shut me up all right

looks like that TBM is missing right elevator too?

oh wait, think its just hard to see over the sea (hey that rhymes!)

Karnak · « **Reply #8 on:** February 21, 2005, 02:19:43 PM »

I recall that an Israeli F-15 managed to land with almost all of his right wing removed as well.

mora · « **Reply #9 on:** February 21, 2005, 02:34:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
I recall that an Israeli F-15 managed to land with almost all of his right wing removed as well.

Praise cod for Google image search!

Elfie · « **Reply #10 on:** February 21, 2005, 04:43:13 PM »

In 1982 (iirc) an F-4D Phantom II from the Michigan Air National Guard collided with a private jet that was in restricted airspace near the North Carolina coast. The F-4D lost it's starboard wing up to the inboard weapons pylon. It landed safely and was later repaired by a depot maintenance team.

I saw the damage on this jet with my own eyes. Simply incredible that it made it home.

*edit* I was also on the flightline watching when this jet landed. Didnt think much of it when I saw it land, the F-4 was landing with its port wing towards me so I couldnt see that it was missing most of a wing. Only thing that made me (and the guys I was with) stop to watch was the firetrucks, ambulance etc that had been sitting and waiting. When this F-4 showed up, they all raced to the runway to meet it.

A few minutes later when our supervisor showed up in the line truck we asked him about the IFE that had just landed. Thats when we found out it was missing almost all of its starboard wing. A couple of days later that same supervisor drove us to the hanger it was in so we could see the damage.

Thrawn · « **Reply #11 on:** February 22, 2005, 04:22:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Furball
the F/A-18 lose a horizontal stabiliser? first clip it is there, after the slo mo dropping and it zooms back out it is gone.

Wierd, looks like it just disappears.

Karnak · « **Reply #12 on:** February 22, 2005, 02:46:55 PM »

Mora,

Yup, that's the one I was thinking of.

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 23, 2005, 10:13:44 AM »

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Originally posted by mora
Looks like the pilot was trying to regain cotrol up until he gave up. Infact he seemed to get it stabilized in descent at one point but went wing over when trying to raise the nose.

Note that the pilot is applying only a little aileron.

...and probably applying a HUGE dump in his flight suit...

Nefarious · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2005, 06:48:58 PM »

The F-18 Looks similar to the Prototype Versions, Check out the Paint Scheme in this Video.

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/fa18/video/firstf18mov.htm

I'm guessing the other video was shot during test trials, Because its still wearing that Paint Scheme.