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Offline JB88

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« Reply #75 on: February 21, 2005, 06:37:10 PM »
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:p   I love sore losers :D


i lost twice.  

no.  three times.

1.  i voted liberrarian.
2.  i lost the america that i love.  
3.  i now live in a paranoid fear driven society.

cant wait for the clouds to part and change to come.  and it will.  oh it will.

but no, im not sore.

i just dont happen to agree with you or your party with its agenda of lies and sheepdom.

i used to have great conversations with republicons, now its like talking to a tape recorder.

way to be humble winners guys.  nice example.
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« Reply #76 on: February 21, 2005, 06:40:41 PM »
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:p   I love sore losers :D


:aok

nail ----> head

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« Reply #77 on: February 21, 2005, 06:49:31 PM »
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nail ----> head


Shouldn't it be:

head ----> nail ?

The way you've got it now, it looks like the head of a hammer is getting hit by a nail, which is just completely retarded.

Er wait... is the "head" you're talking about actually the head of a nail, and not the head of a hammer? If so, that implies that the nail is beatin' on itself.

I probably just don't get it it.... so nevermind. I just use "Nailed it", which avoids any such ambiguity... er unless of course we're talking about, say, Janet Reno... where "nailed it" could be misconstrued....

Oh the internet is so whacky.

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« Reply #78 on: February 21, 2005, 08:57:01 PM »
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It's a gross oversimplification but it boils down to the belief that the government has no place in my bedroom and better have a good reason for being in my wallet.


Well I certainly agree w/ you here.  What about the social side though?  Is a libertarain typically a social liberal?
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« Reply #79 on: February 21, 2005, 09:01:18 PM »
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Well I certainly agree w/ you here.  What about the social side though?  Is a libertarain typically a social liberal?


As I understand the term, yes... But as I've discovered here, not everyone agrees on what "socially liberal" means. If the term is too ambiguous, we can just drop it and find some other more accurate labels for each other. :)
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« Reply #80 on: February 21, 2005, 09:04:36 PM »
OK, well when I think of socially liberal, I think of Govt funded soup kitchens, welfare,  endless unemployment benefits, govt health care for those who do not put money into the system, housing subsidies for those who are too lazy to support themselves, disability checks for people who turned a sore back into a life long illness.... etc.

As you can see, it conflicts w/ being fiscally conservative.... imho
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« Reply #81 on: February 21, 2005, 09:09:00 PM »
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OK, well when I think of socially liberal, I think of Govt funded soup kitchens, welfare,  endless unemployment benefits, govt health care for those who do not put money into the system, housing subsidies for those who are too lazy to support themselves, disability checks for people who turned a sore back into a life long illness.... etc.

As you can see, it conflicts w/ being fiscally conservative.... imho


That's the "border" between economic and social aspects of politics.  It's one of the places where it gets confusing, since it has a foot planted firmly on both sides of the fence.

I, like you, put the majority of it on the social side, since I feel that's where welfare is rooted.

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« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2005, 09:15:58 PM »
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OK, well when I think of socially liberal, I think of Govt funded soup kitchens, welfare,  endless unemployment benefits, govt health care for those who do not put money into the system, housing subsidies for those who are too lazy to support themselves, disability checks for people who turned a sore back into a life long illness.... etc.

As you can see, it conflicts w/ being fiscally conservative.... imho



...and I'd call your example fiscally liberal. :)
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« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2005, 09:28:50 PM »
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... er unless of course we're talking about, say, Janet Reno... where "nailed it" could be misconstrued....


That is just gross and completely uncalled for!
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« Reply #84 on: February 21, 2005, 09:44:53 PM »
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i lost twice.  

no.  three times.

1.  i voted liberrarian.


So you were you suprised?

2.  i lost the america that i love.

Just a eensy weensy bit dramatic, don't you think?


3.  i now live in a paranoid fear driven society.


?  WHO... is paranoid?

cant wait for the clouds to part and change to come.  and it will.  oh it will.

Yep, it will... just like "it" did in 01.  I can only hope it doesn't come in the form of some flower waving socialist fathead who refuses to accept the reality that WE are the good guys, out to do good things, for good people.

but no, im not sore.

Horse pucky...

i just dont happen to agree with you or your party with its agenda of lies and sheepdom.

Your not sore.

i used to have great conversations with republicons, now its like talking to a tape recorder.

So, what do you expect THEY say about conversations with you?

way to be humble winners guys.  nice example.

Stop the hate, I'll stop the spiking the ball.
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« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2005, 04:39:18 AM »
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i lost twice.  

no.  three times.

1.  i voted liberrarian.


So you were you suprised?

2.  i lost the america that i love.

Just a eensy weensy bit dramatic, don't you think?


3.  i now live in a paranoid fear driven society.


?  WHO... is paranoid?

cant wait for the clouds to part and change to come.  and it will.  oh it will.

Yep, it will... just like "it" did in 01.  I can only hope it doesn't come in the form of some flower waving socialist fathead who refuses to accept the reality that WE are the good guys, out to do good things, for good people.

but no, im not sore.

Horse pucky...

i just dont happen to agree with you or your party with its agenda of lies and sheepdom.

Your not sore.

i used to have great conversations with republicons, now its like talking to a tape recorder.

So, what do you expect THEY say about conversations with you?

way to be humble winners guys.  nice example.

Stop the hate, I'll stop the spiking the ball.


no.  i wasnt surprized.

not too dramatic.  we accepted the lie.  i thought that we were better than that.
the patriot act is a portend of things to come if we do not carefully guard our liberty.  what we have lost is going to be hard to recover and power does not like letting go of power.  this has been proven again and again.

oh, i dont know.  any american since 9/11 who watches fox for more than 10 minutes seems to get that "saddam was gonna kill us" stare.

personally, i dont think that corporate suckup and/or subterfuge is good, much less a president who requires you to sign loyalty oaths.  sorry.  just not seeing it.  in my opinion that is coersion.

i expect that what they say about me is about the same as they do anyone else who dares have an opinion like our forefathers did.

was that a spike?  felt more like a feather slap.

i dont hate you mumphry.  i just think your ilk is self righteous and suffers from control issues but thankfully it will  all soon be placed on the thrift store shelf like everyother american fad since the first one.  

mandate my arse.  



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« Reply #86 on: February 22, 2005, 04:48:55 AM »
I saw it. And I thought it was great. Changed my mind about gun control. Its not the guns.

What you guys need is news media control;)  Who was that shallow b**tard outside the school where the little girl was shot dead? Crying crocodile tears into the camera and fretting about his hairspray.


It made me think how glad I am to be living in a country not gripped by paranoia and fear. ( though sadly it seems we are doing our bit to catch up with the states as usual ) Actualy I think Canada looks like a pretty cool place. Now I can see why my father's side of the family emmigrated there.

I woke up much happier that I am a Brit. Though it still concerns me that a nation led by a paranoid president, and riddled with the attitude that if you are a bit different people should be afraid of you, is pushing its weight around the world and spending more than ever on war.

I wonder would the, little guy who shot the girl's, mother have had to go and work all those hours on that bus if a fraction of the money spent on the war had been put into helping out the poorer people in society?

Marylin Manson may be freaky and way out there but he said what for me was the most important thing in the film.

Someone should have taken the time to listen to those guys at Columbine and then maybe it would never have happened.

( mind you if they couldn't have got a gun at Kmart!!! it wouldn't have happened either! )
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« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2005, 04:54:20 AM »
Zulu7 - well I'm glad someone was able to benefit from my thread in the way it was intended. ;)

Do you think it was worthy of the 5 stars?

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« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2005, 05:05:14 AM »
Arrrg...Intended?

Beetle, god bless ya you ‘ol buckaroo, but you are so transparent, it’s comical. Sure, they take the bait and go from there with your topics, but don’t backslap Zulu.

No shame. Unbelievable.

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« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2005, 05:19:42 AM »
Beetle I thought it was worth 4or5 yeah. It was an interesting take on things and cleverly mixed hard hitting truths with some humour to make it watchable. An Unremiting diet of sadness and violence would have made a lot of people switch off pretty quick so I think it hit the mark and was cleverly made to keep people watching. The guy is angry but I think I would be too if I had to live there. Have you ever watched MArk Thomas at work. He's pretty good too, like our own home cooked version of Mr Moore.

Save us from the paranoia ;)