Kids will be Kids

[Maverick]

Cmon guys. I threw out a considerable amount of "ghrist" for the mill here. Can't you do something other than and alter quotes?!?!?!

[Sandman]

Hmmm... you're right Mav... unfortunately, it seems that many still believe that deterrance and cessation of recidivism are the same thing.

[Maverick]

Sandy,

In some cases they are correct.

[storch]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm thinking people don't really grasp the term "deterrant". To deter means to prevent. The death penalty has not been shown to "Prevent" murders.

the death penalty has proven to be 100% effective in deterring additional murders being committed by the executed perpetrator.

say it ain't so.  

[Tumor]

Originally posted by Monk
Lets see, you can join the military with 17, but not old or mature enough for the DP.

 Double Pen....  huh?

[Skydancer]

Well if we were all infallible and jurors could be absolutely sure thay made the right decision then maybe there would be a case for the death penalty.

Thing is though the courts have got it wrong too often and to me its too much of a risk. Lock em up. Throw away the key. but Death can't be reversed if you find out later the guy was innocent.

So I guess I'm not realy for it at all.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm thinking people don't really grasp the term "deterrant". To deter means to prevent. The death penalty has not been shown to "Prevent" murders.

I do and it will
It will prevent a murderer from murdering again. In or out of prison

[midnight Target]

hello wall.

[Suave]

Originally posted by Shamus
Dont forget the vote, entering into contracts, jury duty etc. I guess it's only fair that if you have the responsibility of adulthood, the privilege should go along with it.

shamus

Once there there was this nail, and then Shamus hit it.. on the head.

[vorticon]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I do and it will
It will prevent a murderer from murdering again. In or out of prison

but unless a good number of people see it, capital punishment will be uneffective at stopping OTHERS from doing it...which is the point of a deterrant.

[Eagler]

send them to Iraq and have them probe for roadside explosives

be sure they are dressed in large american flag t-shirts while their escorts scan the windows looking for the muzzle flashes

though not EVERY juvvee who killed was given the dp, now ALL murdering thug juvees do not have to worry about that ...

just as wrong, just in the opposite direction

let the punishment fit the crime

[Silat]

Originally posted by NUKE
I think anyone 14 or older who murders another should be put to death.

ALL TEENS MUST GO !!!

             

[Skydancer]

[lazs2]

I have heard that there is evidence that the death penalty is indeed a deterrent for more than the obvious (the person executed).

Have you any evidence to the contrary?

I would like the death penalty to be handed out only in the case of absolute certainty or very close to it.   I will accept a very tinyu amount of mistakes to keep murderers form killing again.  I would like it to be only for murder that is callous or for profit and not ones that are in the heat of passion.

lazs

[Airhead]

Originally posted by lazs2
I have heard that there is evidence that the death penalty is indeed a deterrent for more than the obvious (the person executed).

Have you any evidence to the contrary?

I would like the death penalty to be handed out only in the case of absolute certainty or very close to it.   I will accept a very tinyu amount of mistakes to keep murderers form killing again.  I would like it to be only for murder that is callous or for profit and not ones that are in the heat of passion.

lazs

I'm unwilling to accept a "tiny" amount of mistakes to keep a punishment that is more expensive, more Draconian and more absolute than other punishments...If we wrongly execute one innocent prisoner then the system is flawed and should be halted.  

However, the advantage to a death sentance is it puts the convict on death row, where they are unable to intermingle with the general prison population...in California it's more likely you'll die of natural causes rather from lethal injection if you're handed a death sentance.