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Offline Silat

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« on: March 06, 2005, 04:26:33 PM »
Try this and compare. http://www.cepr.net/pages/sscalculator.htm


Then one of you that is gung ho about the proposed change in SS please tell me how the radical rights plan, saves the system that isn't in trouble. Then tell me why we arent fixing medicare instead.............

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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2005, 04:35:15 PM »
Too bad that calculator doesn't take into account that there won't be any funds to pay me by the time I retire.

I'll take Bush's plan, thanks.  I'm a big boy.  I can' handle my money.

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 04:42:45 PM »
Not taking sides on this. I just want to say that many years ago when I started working I had been advised to plan for something else besides SS for retirement. I took their advice and was able to retire well before I will be eligable for SS.
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Re: SS calculator
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2005, 07:30:20 PM »
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Originally posted by Silat
Try this and compare. http://www.cepr.net/pages/sscalculator.htm


Then one of you that is gung ho about the proposed change in SS please tell me how the radical rights plan, saves the system that isn't in trouble. Then tell me why we arent fixing medicare instead.............

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Its always the radical right isn't it?  Just a big giant conspiracy of the right to put old people on the street.  

Koolaid anyone?

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2005, 07:50:36 PM »
OK I dont get it so help me out here.

sorry but I really dan't read this chart.  Is the garunteed benifit INCLUDING what I put into my private account?

FWIW I dont plan on retiring on any SS or PA really I just know SS isn't going to last.

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2005, 07:54:16 PM »
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Not taking sides on this. I just want to say that many years ago when I started working I had been advised to plan for something else besides SS for retirement. I took their advice and was able to retire well before I will be eligable for SS.


Union provided disability insurance, or you chose extra coverage?

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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2005, 09:35:00 PM »
I was told in 1980 that SS wouldn't be around long enough to pay me, so I started saving in my teens..  As far as Im concerned its an extra windfall if I ever see a cent ...  Nothing is guaranteed in life, plan for every possibility as best you can while your young...or dont..

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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2005, 09:51:40 PM »
Of course TOJO, everyone knew that at 17, duh! I was going to buy a car and chase *****, but I thought I'd better invest my pizza joint money.

 Lotsa retards here weren't as clever as us, the dip****s.

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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2005, 10:07:20 PM »
friends the issue here is that by the time we late boomers retire there will be a ratio of one contributor to one recipient.  my concern is what if my guy gets sick?  the system is in dis-array.  I'm with martlett on this. also it is my sincere desire to die as a functional contributing member of society. I believe that my creativity will actually extend my life.  I just don't want to work 40-50 hours a week.  I haven't since about eight years now.  I hope I don't need to return to that so I can afford mine and my wife's future meds.

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2005, 10:22:08 PM »
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Its always the radical right isn't it?  Just a big giant conspiracy of the right to put old people on the street.  

Koolaid anyone?


Guess you cant answer the question:)
It is the radical right admin that is pushing the private accounts as a fix to ss. It isnt a fix and I challenge you to show how it is a fix. Bush and his gang have nothing in common with the majority of republicans. They are radicals.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2005, 11:18:13 PM »
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Guess you cant answer the question:)
It is the radical right admin that is pushing the private accounts as a fix to ss. It isnt a fix and I challenge you to show how it is a fix. Bush and his gang have nothing in common with the majority of republicans. They are radicals.



It would be a waste of time to answer a question you have already put in the "radical right" column.  

BTW,
That gang was elected with far more votes than you care to admit to.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2005, 11:51:04 PM »
50.01% of a population could plunder a nations wealth, curtail personal liberties, imprison wihout due process, oppress or subdue any group or enrich any group, and still be called a democracy.

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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2005, 12:19:26 AM »
Funny how that works....

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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2005, 12:24:58 AM »
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It would be a waste of time to answer a qustion you have already put in the "radical right" column.  

BTW,
That gang was elected with far more votes than you care to admit to.



They won . It is my country and pres too. Did I dispute that? Why are you so defensive about it? Can you or can you not tell me how private accounts will fix SS?
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« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2005, 02:24:08 AM »
To say the system is not in trouble is just not true my friend.  Yes, it is ok for now but common sense dictates the longer we wait the more of a problem it will become.  

I agree that the private accounts are not necessarily a fix because such a small % of what you pay in would actually go into the private account.  The rest of the money in the system would still be subject to the same drain that is occurring now.  

However, being younger that you ;)  I'd like to see some sort of privatization of the system were it's possible to make a greater rate of return than what SS gives presently.  I mean, comeon, unless the market crashes 1930's stye there's really no way in the long run that you would make less than what the system would pay out in the future.  We can do better than what we have now and I'm open to all sorts of ideas.  

It really bothers me that the party that talked so much of fixing SS in the late 90's now claims that there is no crisis, in what is essentially a political move to not have their crown jewel of social programs stolen from them.  There has to be a good way to do this, but I fear politics on both sides will kill it.